Guest Post by Katie McCall
So often we hear stories about officers stepping out of line and aggressively asserting themselves without reason. But this story is different. This story is about a cop who tried to stop the violence.
Officer Regina Tasca has worked for the Bogota, New Jersey police departmentfor 11 years. She had an exemplary record. One day in April, 2011, she received a call to assist with the transport of a 22 year old male to the hospital because he was psychologically distraught. The call came in from his mother who was beside herself with worry for her adult son.
Officer Tasca arrived on scene and immediately began to put the man at ease. ”When the call came, I heard that a couple of officers from Ridgefield Park were coming to provide backup, which I thought was OK,” Tasca said. But when they arrived the young man grew nervous. “He noticed them and asked me, ‘Why are there other police offices here from another town?’ Then he said that he was leaving, and he moved maybe two or three steps when one of the Ridgefield officers jumped him.”
Sgt. Chris Thibault pounced on the non-aggressive man and tried to handcuff him. The second officer, Sgt. Joe Rella, “assisted” him by jumping on top and punching the unarmed man in the head. The man’s mother looked on and screamed helplessly for the cops to stop pummeling her son.
In the midst of the chaos, Officer Tasca, intervened. She did not assist her brothers in blue, but chose instead to pry the officers off of him and pull him to his feet.
Was she commended? Were the officers who tackled the passive male investigated? No, on both accounts.
Instead, Officer Tasca was asked to turn in her weapon and was suspended. This week, she faces a hearing where she will possibly be fired.
And the two officers who did the tackling? They were never even investigated.
Unfit for duty? Perhaps they are right. She’s unfit for duty as the only ethical officer amongst the gangsters of her police department. But she IS FIT for service to citizens as a police officer, protecting and serving the public.
Thank you Officer Tasca. You remind us of what public service can be.
Psychologically unfit to be a cop? High praise.
I wish there were more cops out there like Officer Tasca, who practice de-escalation and actually try to talk someone into cooperating rather than immediately resorting to screaming threats, then force, which 99.9% of cops do.
It seems like many cops first reaction to even the slightest showing of any resistance, even just hesitation, is to slam the person on the ground and start head punching them while screaming “stop resisting” whether they are resisting or not.
Apparently by claiming Officer Tasca is “unfit for duty”, the psycho, violent officers who’s policy is to ALWAYS escalate a situation are what the department wants.
First of all, the author of this article wasn’t there. Neither were the people commenting before me. Are you aware of prior discipline issues with Officer Tasca? Was the suspect actively resisting a lawful arrest? Was this subject a threat? Until you’ve walked in the shoes of Police Officers, don’t be so quick to judge all Police Officers here as being 99.9% ready to use excessive force, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Officers respond every day to life threatening situations and are must use force in many of these situations to take someone into custody and to protect themselves. Watch a few videos of Police Officers being assaulted, shot and killed. Better yet, go do a ride along with a Police Officer one night and witness first hand the levels of human depravity dealt with daily.
*Who called the two other police officers in the first place ?
*Without knowing the facts at hand, why did they jump on that guy and tried to handcuff him?
*Why didn’t they first try to consult with officer Taska about what was going on before jumping onto conclusions?
*If officer Taska was doing her job honorably and had everything under control, why use her as scapegoat when the ones who deserved to be punished were those two assholes who escalate the situation out-of-proportions ?
And then, the police wonder why some people can’t stand them and do not like them.
Carlos
Seems the blue union crips gang did not like being challenged by one of their own and so they turned on her and trying to kick her out of the gang.
She tried to pry off the gangsters off the boy just as a real peace officer should.
It appears she will win her case and she should sue the gangsters after.
It’s a sad state of affairs when this woman is the one under the microscope.
What a shame.
Bill,
Nobody wants to go on your fucking circle jerk “ride along”. If I had wanted to be a cop, I would have been born stupider and morally defective.
Get with the program here. Nobody gives a shit how hard you think your job is. Cops do depraved things all the time, and they are now being caught on camera. If you wanted us to buy that “American hero” garbage, you should get in your time machine and zoom back to 1952, when cops beat people off camera and a YouTube search wouldn’t yield hundreds of thousands of hits for “police brutality”.
Too late. The Internet hates you if you are a cop.
Better yet, google “cop shoots family dog” like I did after the shooting at the wrong house in Austin. My daughter will never view cops the same after some of the stories of cops amusied with their dog shooting skills joking about spot being dead.
You are your own worst enemies. I don’t even have to work hard to show you as sociopaths. Google is enough.
Bill, I watch videos of cops being killed or assaulted any time I want to smile.
@ Bill the fool, Jurisdiction was the woman if she needed assistance she would of asked. These 2 officers were way out of line and had no business being in the home. Tasco relayed a code 4 under control.If I was Tasca I would have arrested both Police officers for excessive Force and violating Persons with Disabilities. No crime was committed until the two third Reich officers showed up. and Bill,Common, whatever your name is this week shut the fuck up and chew on a used tampon from a woman you put in jail to remind yourself how dumb you are.
I was in Afghanistan 4 times and we react like that because we are combat oriented and trained to react like that. Its starting to be like that here in the states . And to Bill Bullshit its wrong. The more cops show force the more hate and the more shootings and the more resistance your going to get. Word of advice your a punk with a badge with no integrity, no impartiality, with extreme prejudice. If you are a cop you are breaking federal law and you need to be put in levenworth. OK BILL
Well, as Vladimir Ilyich Lenin used to say: “The end justify the means”…
If the police goal is to be more hatred over time, then keep behaving the way you are behaving right now. Keep beating people, teasing, kicking, punching, handcuffing, pepper spraying, false arresting, filing false charges, shouting slurs, etc.
The more mistreatment by the police on the people, the best for us. We will end up rallying more people to our cause, because, for every man/woman/kid unfairly treated by cops, the more enemies they get, the more people with bad memories about the police are out there and, the best for us, at CopBlock.
So, Cops…”keep it up” !
Carlos
breaking federal law? oh centy, what looney notion are you pushing this time?
….oh wait….what’s that sound?……its a helicopter, but it sounds different…..Oh my GOD its a Boaton PD Apache gunship!!!
“First of all, the author of this article wasn’t there. Neither were the people commenting before me. Are you aware of prior discipline issues with Officer Tasca? Was the suspect actively resisting a lawful arrest? Was this subject a threat? Until you’ve walked in the shoes of Police Officers, don’t be so quick to judge ”
The burden of proof rests on the police officers who performed the arrest. If they can’t articulate justification for the initial arrest, then we must assume the arrest was unjustified due to lack of probable cause.
I shouldn’t have to say this, but violence is shocking and dangerous and shouldn’t be engaged in unless absolutely necessary. If you can’t justify violence beyond reasonable doubt, then don’t engage in it. Asking for us to trust the actions of the police without evidence is asking for us to put blind faith in them. You’re better off believing in the tooth fairy, at least she won’t kick your ass and take your money.
There are so many officers out there that try to do the right thing everyday. I saw first hand the abuse of the ones who have tenure and thought the rules did not apply to them. If you speak up you are ridiculed and it can get dangerous for you if no one comes to back you up if they think “you are not worthy.” Open carry and always have a camera phone ready and do not shut it off if they tell you to, it is your only independent witness and they know it.
@bill you said “Until you’ve walked in the shoes of Police Officers, don’t be so quick to judge ” WEll that’s the problem isn’t it? If we haven’t been police officers we don’t have the “Right” TO criticize because we “haven’t been there” on the other hand if we HAD been police officers we wouldn’t have the right to criticize because we would be labeled “Hypocrites” for criticizing after we had done the same thing ourselves. It’s no-win with you people
@ Sketchball no commonsense, Arresting or enforcing false laws withoout victims IS AGAINST FEDERAL LAW. I wish I knew you in real life I would , hand cuff you, not read your rights, if you sneeze or say OWE that hurts I’ll call it resisting than I’ll punch you and taze you to shit, add two more charges I just pulled out of my ass add assaulting a citizen because you stumbled by accident because I was dragging you to my citizen cruiser by your pink panty womans underware and lock you up with a citizens arrest for violating THE REAL FUCKING LAW and not the bullshit unliberty law you chose to make a false vow at . I want to make a citizens arrest on every one of you Third Reich peaces of crap that call yourselves humans. Your a sad bunch of little boy bitches that should be fighting FOR our freedom not enforcing false laws of control and Bullshit. Common your a punk with a badge and nothing more , and a big cry baby, a word of advice pussy, go to walmart theres a paper isle there get some adult diapers,tampons and equip your cruisers with some because thats about how much you know about freedom.
@bill,common,angry whoever, no force is justified ever without a victim. Your stupid outlook on how the Police should function and even the Police themselves are wrong about everything they do. Police was federally sanctioned to upkeep law where ever it was in plain sight with extreme Impartiality,Integrity gentleness and patience. Force was only used when extreme proof of force was given or expressed. A Policing state is a Federal offense and no law can overwrite it or supersede the declaration of independence nor can it supersede the constitution of the real United States. Just the mere fact that they make you get a registration for a car is a violation of federal law. All citizens who live in any commonwealth or ant state in the Union have the right of free travel. This freedom cannot be taken away ,impeded, or withheld or it is TREASON against the the sovereignty of the PUBLIC who has the JURISDICTION of GOVERNANCE. (John Henry Adams) See PIGS you are governed by us not the other way around, its the citizen that governs the streets the highways , the town offices and buildings, public property according to the LAW all these things are NOT YOUR JURISDICTION and NO law, stat local or anybody can take that away EVER. According to the REAL LAW what cops do is treason against sovereignty and is punishable by death.
Sovereignty will be reestablished and the citizens will learn the real Law and this state along with every other state will be governed and controlled by the public once again and cops and all the three letter nazi organizations in this false government will fall and inplode on itself because they will lose all support from the public , by 2030 86percent of Americans will have a criminal record 40 percent will have Felonies so to all the Cops have a ball having pretty much every voting person in this country hating you, fighting you,shooting at you,spitting at you, you work for us and its all ready starting to show with that thief chiefs death along with four of his own thugs hurt, trust me there will be more to come.
NOTICE – This is not my hatred of Police its my love of the real US Law with an extreme hate of its violators (POLICE) Its a reckoning not hatred.
Take a moment to follow the link and listen as LEOs true to their oath speak. This is what the focal point of the whole mess is. The willingness, hell the anticipation of the majority of you sycophants-in-blue to commit overt acts of TREASON against the very society you TOOK AN OATH to defend! You filthy little badge-lickers can pop off all you want in an abstract attempt to curry favor with the swine committing these acts of treason, but it doesn’t make it right OR legal under the constitution THEY SWORE AN OATH to defend! They are filth, period! It is because of their willingness to wipe their asses with their oath as well as our constitution and bill of rights that has allowed this out-of-control, treasonous government to bring our nation to the very brink!
http://www.countysheriffproject.org/
You who slither through your work day, willing to violate your oath are an occupying ENEMY ARMY to our country and people and your own character and honor being too weak or non-existant to keep you aware of your treason and bring you back in line with that oath you seem to take so lightly, you should be treated as what you are, enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC!
@paschn , its about freakin time someone is actually getting it thank you for the post.
Local Police forfeit the states freedoms as soon as they take charity from the fed. #bearcat tank. A supersized heavy armored Ford F350 superduty that is 330,000 dollars. Homeland security grant for law enforcement to upgrade their NCIC and C.A.D. and NHIC mainframes 72 million dollars. Combined unit training for the ATF and FBI , DEA drug task force training. Cops have failed to uphold the constitution by accepting these charities and pissed our individual state rights over to the FED. Cops need to be or the Idea of enforcement needs to be estinguished and abolished ASAP.
I am warmed to the core that there is an officer out there like this one.
We need more to stop the violence and actually do their jobs.
The department who is trying to get rid of her should be disbanded and Officer Tasca put in charge of a new force
@Dennis, Roger That. Im trying to get an update on the female officers status, she should be a chief .
Can you see how backward they are in their attempt to justify themselves? The one doing the right thing is villified/crucified by the “head” sycophant and his minions but they are the ones that have erred. Black is white, white is black good is bad bad is good…..the S.I.B. are from Bizzarro world, probably 2nd generation spawn of Lex Luthor or descendants of ‘ole Bennie Arnold. Hmm, possibly their hero figure? thye are worse than the bulk they have imprisoned because they have committed treason against their country and people….Isn’t that a crime punishable by death?
In closing, the “government” this filth has aligned with against our nation are sending the votes for the upcoming election to a FOREIGN COUNTRY to be tallied. Can you wrap your mind around that?
http://www.pauldrockton.com/Scytl2.html
okay so when a cop has done wrong we alwasy get the phone number to call and demand discipline-where’s a phone number we can call and ask for this officer to be commended?
That number would be used so infrequently, what would be the point?
THIS IS ALL A FAKE!!!!!! There are NO GOOD COPS OUT THERE!!!! remember!!!?????
I think what you’re trying to say is, they aren’t ALL such as yourself, eh?
Interesting feedback… Let me try to address many of you while I can.
Centurion – “If” you did serve four tours in the ‘stan, thank you for serving, however, you bring great discredit to yourself, your service and those who served with you with your anti-government rhetoric and unbalanced statements. I did over 13 years in the military. Spent time in Iraq and brought all my troops home. Many of the men/women I work with are vets. We serve honorably and with integrity every day, unlike what many of the contributors here seem to think/believe. You mentioned a “Bearcat”. We have one. I’m on a SWAT team, it saves lives. That’s what our main goal is everytime we go out. Save lives. Unlike what is posted here, we aren’t out trying to trump up charges to make illegal arrests. We respond when called. There are laws in this country, we enforce them. We may not agree with them, but we have a job to do. If you don’t like the laws, vote for someone who will make amendments. As for the “combat state”, I’d love it if we didn’t have to worry about being ambushed, shot at, attacked, but we don’t, so we take steps to ensure for our safety, and I guarantee you that I’m prepared and very well-trained. Punk with a badge violating federal law? What laws am I breaking? Please share. If you mean defending myself from attack or arresting a violent criminal, then you sir are extremely misguided and misinformed.
To the COWARD who posts under the obscene slur against the murdered Lakewood officers, you being born “stupider” would not have made you eligible to be a Police Officer, your poor inter-personal communication skills are what’s holding you back along with the fact that you are a computer tough guy only, and in order to do this job you have to be able to interact with people and not be afraid of confrontation, you obviously can’t do this. Quite frankly, if you can’t post an opinion without the use of profanity or obscene comments, you have some issues.
Spirit of 46 – the number is the same. If you have a problem with a Police Officer or wish to commend an Officer, you call the same place. Yes, I picked up on your sarcasm but just in case you were in fact in need of this, I felt compelled to respond.
Paschn – We don’t “justify ourselves” as you so eloquently phrased it, we do our job. Nothing more, nothing less. Where some of you come up with this “treason” idea is beyond me. I’d suggest that you have some conspiracy theory issues yourself. We did swear an oath, pretty much the same oath I swore to when I enlisted years ago. I’ve never licked my badge, not sure about your reference there. I guarantee you I’m not worse than the “bulk I’ve imprisoned” as you say, I’ve locked up murderers, gang members, drug dealers, violent felons, etc. By doing so, I am living up to the oath I took to protect the community I serve. I make it safer for the people. Even safer for you as you hide in your mom’s basement posting filth on the internet all day.
Dave – feel free to have a camera on me when I’m working. Nothing to hide. And if open carry is permitted in your state, that’s great. We don’t mind, really. However, be careful pulling your camera phone out during a shooting investigation in a dark area so we are sure what that object is you are pointing at us.
Grant – I only suggested doing a ride-along as a way for some of you to see what we deal with day in and day out. Feel free to criticize all you want. It’s your right. I criticize some of my fellow workers, but that doesn’t make me a hypocrit unless I’ve done or do the same thing. Poor choice of words there Grant. As for “no win with you people” I’m not sure what you are referring to, we are looked at under a microscope everyday, we go out everyday and try to make the world a safer place a little bit at a time, if we make a mistake we get disciplined, if we break the law, we get charged. Same as anyone else. The difference is that we lose our job, unlike everyone else for the most part.
Chris – If watching videos of Police Officers being attacked brings a smile to your face, I’m sure you fall into that category of “has been arrested and blames the cops because it wasn’t your fault”. There’s plenty of those videos out there and every single one of those Officers is honorable. You I have doubts about.
Police Officers risk their lives everyday for people they don’t even know, even for people like all the ungrateful ones posting on this message board. You call 911 because you are in trouble, we come running. Then you turn around and bash us in private on boards like this. Who’s the hypocrit now Grant? None of you know me, I doubt any of you even personally know a Police Officer. I do believe there are some of you here that have been arrested and of course it’s the Officer’s fault and not yours. So before you all go spouting off about how the Police are the problem I’d recommend taking a long hard look at yourselves first. Feel free to comment, however, if you want to be taken seriously, try to refrain from talking about women’s hygiene products, obscene comments rife with profanity, etc. Have a valid point, (or believe that you do) fire away…
“Paschn – We don’t “justify ourselves” as you so eloquently phrased it, we do our job. Nothing more, nothing less. Where some of you come up with this “treason” idea is beyond me. I’d suggest that you have some conspiracy theory issues yourself. We did swear an oath, pretty much the same oath I swore to when I enlisted years ago. I’ve never licked my badge, not sure about your reference there. I guarantee you I’m not worse than the “bulk I’ve imprisoned” as you say, I’ve locked up murderers, gang members, drug dealers, violent felons, etc. By doing so, I am living up to the oath I took to protect the community I serve. I make it safer for the people. Even safer for you as you hide in your mom’s basement posting filth on the internet all day.”
ROFLMAO! you anal retentive pompous ass! you just spent atleast 20 minutes “justifying” yourself. As I’ve stated in previous posts, there are cops and there are Sycophants-in-Blue. If you knowingly obey a single order from a superior to undermine a citizen’s constitutional rights you are helping bring down the country you say you love for a paycheck. Do all S.I.B.’s commit the type of crimes posted on this site? I doubt it. Are the majority of LEO’s pissing on constitutional rights? I’m certain of it. If you weren’t very willing to cover fellow officers’ asses and do it, you wouldn’t be a LEO.If a certain percentile you cops did the mind-boggling, selfless, heroic acts you parrot, you wouldn’t need flashlights, the glow from your self-righteous halos would light the night. you assume much, shall we drop to our knees before your ilk and give you all the prefix “Saint”? Wow, with a word you can part the seas….are we in the presence of a saint, or simply a(nother) self aggrandizing, delusional pecker-wood who walks on water to work each day? Calm down, your a legend in your own mind….sycophants of your ilk tell us this all the time seconds before you whip out your tazer/pepperspray to use against the “enemies” of those you grovel before.
Paschn, my halo does present a problem in tactical environments. I don’t carry “pepperspray”, it makes me sneeze. How does arresting a violent offender equate to “undermining a citizen’s constitutional rights”? Does not the victim have rights? Like the right not to be assaulted in the first place? The right not to be robbed? That’s who we work for. The misconception many people seem to have is that the Police “cover fellow officer’s” as you put it. No one wants to lose their job or have their integrity tainted by going along with criminal actions. Do you always feel the need to call people names or does it make you feel better since you apparently can’t have a debate without it? Don’t worry, I’m used to it. We get called names all the time BUT we just go about our duties. Unlike the characterization you spin. You generalize too much. Are there some bad ones? Sure. And we want them out as well. Are there bad ones in your chosen profession? I’m sure there are, but no one is bad mouthing EVERYONE in your profession because of a few. You look to punish the masses for the crimes of a few. Do a certain percentile of “us cops” do the mind-boggling, selfless, heroic acts as you described? Absolutely. Everyday. Just last week three of my co-workers saved a toddler who was choking to death, but that means nothing to you, does it. Ever experience the feeling that comes from helping someone in need? Ever experience the satisfaction in locking up a violent predator for the rest of his life? Or do you classify that as violating that offenders rights? How about if it was someone close to you that was a victim? Would it then be okay for me to do my job to lock that person up? What if while I’m locking up the person that hurt someone close to you, that offender tries to assault me and I use the necessary force to stop him? Am I still in violation in your world or would it be justified then? I’ve never “pissed on constitutional rights”, but I guarantee you I’ve locked up literally hundreds of violent offenders who will still be in jail long after I’m retired. Bringing down the Country? Are you kidding me? How about you re-direct all your energy into finding someone to run this great Nation with integrity and honor? You can’t blame the Police for all your problems.
As with all the other S.I.B.’s that comment here, you just refuse to understand what’s being posted. You’re too busy patting yourselves on the back as you fight terrorism and risk your LIVES daily to protect the citizens of your country……oops, wait! By covertly corrupting legitimate dissent, (provocoteur), standing AGAINST those trying to expose factions ruining this country the only way they can w/o open civil war, you are supporting those pissing on our bill of rights and constitution…..WOW! Epiphany! I’ve looked into the abyss and seen the enemy looking back!…..It’s YOU!
Right back at you, as with all the other Conspiracy Theorists, Anti-Government Radicals and Hate Mongers that comment here, you refuse to answer legitimate questions. Instead you choose to sling sarcasm and ridicule mixed in with your talk of corruption, civil war and how you think your rights are being violated. Give me an example of how you specifically have your rights being violated. I’m the enemy? Because I protect others? Because I stand up for those who can’t defend themselves? Because I stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm you while you sleep safely at night? (Quote from Winston Churchill, but you probably think he’s part of the conspiracy out to get you, too). I don’t need to pat myself on the back, and haven’t listed my accomplishments, so I’m not understanding why you keep insinuating that all we do is put ourselves on pedestals. What “Factions” are you exposing that are ruining this country? Are you exposing Politicians? I’m not standing in your way on that, trust me. Seriously, in your next post, please try to make some sense.
When you prompt your halo to begin glowing…..does it generate enough heat that you become uncomfortable?
1.)
There are OBVIOUSLY individual cops that break the laws they swear to uphold. It’s a given from the plethora of sites listing, (for the most part), different illegal acts up to and including murder. Cops guilty of committing them need to be done away with.
If you can say with a clear conscience that you aren’t one of them, then enough said, flutter off into the sunset on your white stallion spreading safety and joy nation wide.
2.) Now, what I’m trying to state here, ANY time you or one of your other archangels VIOLATE A CITIZEN’S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, (rights you took an oath to uphold….did you even follow the link to the site I posted above?), by definition you have committed an act of terrorism/treason against this nation and it’s people!
Can you see the issue here? I’m not trying to combine random acts of thuggery with violation of rights laid out in our constitution! ALL COPS ARE NOT SWINE! That being said….If anyone, (cop, FBI, CIA, NSA, “domestic terrorist”, whatever),violates the rights of a fellow citizen they have committed treason…..that includes the cop up the ladder that ordered them to do it.
You fail to make the distinction between #1 and #2. This site, (in my opinion), is focused on random illegal acts of individual “rogue” cops that are usually handled by the authority having jurisdiction. I’m talking about a general problem with cops’ willingness, (whether through ignorance or arrogance), to violate the oath they took to DEFEND the constitution/B.o.R. and the people, from those persons or organizations, (state OR federal), attempting to gain control of the nation and people by violating those documents. What makes you, (or ANY person of authority), “the enemy” is the willingness to protect these “factions” or corrupted government agencies from the justifiable anger of the people to expose them and bring them down. When a cop acts on an order that violates a citizen’s constitutional rights YOU swore to defend, you are as guilty of violating those rights as the person giving the order. Whether your a covert provocateur committing illegal acts under orders from a superior,(exactly as was done to those demonstrating against the illegal war in ‘nam 40 years), or attacking demonstrators with clubs/spray/tazers etc. try to understand the distinction I’m trying to make. Possibly it’s my inability to explain in a manner one can understand, but believe me, it doesn’t mean the difference isn’t there, it is there and both damage cops image. #2 just does it on a much larger scale and unless recognized and corrected can and probably will bring our nation to it’s end.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/03/03/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/
@Bill
You are a fucking idiot to believe that every story on here is false. And if you did your own hard research by clicking their link you would see there is dash cam video of the altercation. So go suck a cop’s dick and you better do it well or you could be going to jail for resisting or whatever nonsense they make up.
And please Bill, explain why force was necessary against this kid. There is video. Look at it and scratch your head and go down on your partner and then say some garbage like “well, he coulda…” or “well that video doesn’t tell the whole story” or “well they just like to fuck people up.”
@Centurion
I totally see what you are saying about cops in America acting like they are at war but they aren’t. You went to real war and you may have acted much beyond normal but circumstances were much beyond normal. Cops these days bust people for pot, excessive drunkenness, domestic violence. And they think they are in Vietnam or something. It is pathetic. I remember a cop saying my dad should beat me more often when I was a kid. In uniform while on the job and the idiot couldn’t shut his dumb mouth.
More evidence that cops should not be invited unless the intent is for a brain dead idiot to start fucking shit up. I will tell my kids to avoid cops at all costs like black kids have been taught for generations. Too bad that cops see everybody as criminals these days but they do.
What? Cops acting unethically? I am shocked!!! Wait what??? Abraham Lincoln was assassinated??? When??? 150 years ago??? I am shocked!!! Wait, are you serious??? The sun rises EVERY day??? I am shocked!!!
Wait, what??? Cops lie and use tactics of deception to protect themselves and harm the public??? I am shocked!!! Wait, what??? Money doesn’t grow on trees and Santa doesn’t do hardcore porn anymore??? I am shocked!!!
The sycophants-in-blue are culled form the general populace for one reason….their willingness to fire on their fellow citizens to protect the tiny elite class. Rather amazing when you think about it….they kept us frozen in fear all through the 20th century as they bled us dry to expand their global holdings then it turns out the real enemies poised to bring it all down here in the Fascist States of America are right here at home being protected by S.I.B.
We the people are all to blame while they stand blameless..and yet, here we are.
Look at that. Another Hate Monger (Speezo)who can’t form a complete sentence with a valid opinion without the use of obscenities and sexual insinuations. Guess what Speezo, I went to “real war” too, and I’m still at it here. Not that you would understand, since it’s apparent that you never served your Country or your community a day in your life and aren’t in a position to offer an educated opinion on the matter. What? Cops arrested someone for smoking pot? (Yes, because Marijuana is illegal). What? Cops arrested someone for being excessively drunk in public? (Yes, because they are a danger to themselves and others and it’s against the law). What? Cops arrested someone for domestic violence? (Yes, because it’s assault and it’s against the law) Those are your examples of what we do that’s so bad? Really? Furthermore, if you base all your biased and skewed opinions on “video” from the internet it would seem to suggest that your lacking in the common sense department. And Paschn, seriously? Global holdings? Protected by whom? All this energy you guys spend on hating the Police, twisting everything to suit your little government conspiracy theories would be better served doing something positive. And Speezo, before you pipe off, read back through my posts. I never said I didn’t believe ALL the stories on here, I’ve stated previously that there are bad eggs in every basket, however, in your little world, you’d punish the masses for the errors of a few. What I don’t appreciate about many of the articles on here is that every one has an anti-government spin to it. Completely without merit. None of the articles on here make mention of one positive thing done by law enforcement. If you want to debate something, try to do it like a gentleman without the vulgarity, you know nothing about me and when you start off your post with telling me to conduct oral sex on someone it suggests that you have a diminished capacity and can’t engage in an educated discussion. Perhaps the Police Officer who spoke with your father had a point…
Most of the “heroes” that, as they say…”served their country” will go to the grave parroting that phrase. Isn’t it strange that after all the generations of “heroes”….all the hundreds of military bases all over the planet, (+/- 700 in 130 nations), teaching “democracy”, defending their country…blah…blah….blah, the world, (inspite of being “blessed” with the benevolent United States), is more unsafe, more murderous, polluted,(D.U. munitions) and has been key in the spread of the Central Banking System which has quite literally enslaved the world is MORE alive and well than it was even a scant 50 years ago? many of us “served” thanks to the draft…but more have stopped tooting their horn about it because they were honest enough with themselves to see the only entity their service defended was the very same one the S.I.B.’s are defending now. But, there’ll always be that small core of idiots that will beat their shrivelled, old chests and drone on and on about how they served….wake up, realize you were duped like the rest of us and for GOD’S sake give us a break with the same ‘ole same ‘ole…Keep it personal man, ask your spawn to have, “HEY WORLD! I SERVED MY COUNTRY AND IT’S STILL F**kED UP!!!” tattoed on your ass and your headstone….for every one self serving horn tooter like you, there’s probably 1000 who realize we were idiots and would rather NOT beat folks over the head with their little “glory days” mantra…Geeze, step back, take a breath and GIVE IT A REST!
Paschn why are you making it personal? I served. I’m proud of it and I’d do it again. From your post, are you saying you were drafted and served? Thank you. How does anyone’s service to their Country contribute to world being more unsafe and more murderous? How does anyone’s service to their Country contribute to the spread of the Central Banking System, which I fail to understand is a problem and is even remotely related to your rant against the Police. First of all, I’m a Patriot. Yes, I love my Country. I love what it stands for. I love the history of this Country. I will say that I’m not happy with some of the current policies, but those change through elections. I wasn’t duped into serving. You and many others on here post nothing by dissent against this Country. Why are you still here? You have nothing good to say about anyone other than your fellow “dissenters”. You blame everyone else for your problems. You see deliberate plots targeting you personally with every government action. Was “No Child Left Behind” another plot to enslave you or take from you? How about the D.A.R.E. program? I bet when the government handed out tax relief to millions of people nation-wide, that you cashed your check and then complained that it wasn’t enough. Is it ever enough for you? You see me to think that the Police (or the ridiculous term you use for them) are the root of all evil and the cause of all your problems. Explain how a Police Officer you’ve never met has personally caused you problems. Horn tooter? What have I “tooted”? Everytime I respond to Hate Mongers rhetoric on here, I’m personally attacked and not one of you has had the intestinal fortitude to answer any of my questions to you. I have not once used profanity, I have not once made vulgar suggestions towards anyone or called them names. You and your “like” on here can’t make a valid argument for your conspiracy theory cause so you revert to name calling to change the subject. I’ve thrown out legitimate questions to you and others. “Glory Days Mantra”? My glory days are every day…
Ok, Bill, I admit I was a bit emotional in my post last evening but my general point remains unchanged. I do base my opinion on the video because it is a true first hand account of what really happened. People lie, exaggerate, fabricate or just plain misremember details while a video does not. I fully support video evidence and can’t think of any reason why someone would not.
And I was trying to point out that some cops are much too rowdy given their daily circumstances. Sure, they arrest potheads and yeah I suppose it still is illegal but their levels of aggression are sometimes off the charts. Many cops often don’t have that hard of a job with breaking up domestic disputes, busting potheads, giving out tickets, or the simple task of assisting a citizen in getting to the hospital without using violence.
I heard a story recently of an ex-cop who had his car struck by an off duty cop. Who was at fault? Who did the uniformed police interview? Yeah, you guessed it. The cop interviewed the active duty and did not know the guy he ignored was an ex-cop.
I just want accountability across the board. I am tired of a double standard. The government does have a monopoly on the use of force. A cop can beat my ass until the cows come home and get off but I can be convicted for shoving somebody into the mud (hypothetically.) I just want to know that since I am not allowed to beat somebody with a stick that some cop can’t do it either.
I wholly advocate taking lawsuit settlements out of officer’s pensions. I am tired of seeing an idiot who makes $70,000 annually cost the taxpayers he serves an extra $885,000 because he can’t seem to not jump on the back of a handcuffed teenager. (Google Charles Porter Juan Vasquez Denver for the story)
I agree with you completely on that, in the context you apply. Excessive force should be dealt with fairly as it would for a citizen, however as Police are held to a higher standard, the punishment is actually more severe. Now to flip that coin, who bears the burden when a frivolous law suit (legitimately has no merit versus one with merit) is brought? Again the tax payers. If law suits weren’t brought every single day without merit, the ones with standing would have more meaning. As far as the monopoly on use of force, I disagree with you. If you are in your home and attacked, you have the right to defend yourself. That has now been modified to include that you have the right to defend yourself period from attack. For Police, we must show justification for using the level of force applied during an arrest. For example, someone throwing a soda can on the street does not warrant being tazed, however, throwing a punch at a Police Officer who tells you to pick the soda can up or be cited is grounds for force being used against you. Speezo, thanks for the decent post and discussion…
Missed your first one there, apologies. I agree, in the majority of incidents, video is a compelling “witness”. It does work both ways, I can’t tell you how many times someone has come in, made a complaint about an officer and the video has shown them to be fabricating. And it has also proven to be critical in showing misconduct of Officers. We use it all the time. Are some guys on the job a bit rowdy? Sure, especially younger ones still trying to figure things out. It’s the ones that have been around a bit longer that are responsible for reigning that in. Are some guys more abrasive than others? Absolutely. And sometimes that abrasiveness is uncalled for. But, since we deal with the worst society has to offer, (not making excuses), when we interact with someone who projects defiance or attitude immediately, it’s returned to them. We only ask to be treated like you (the public) would like to be treated. You can’t fight with us one minute and then demand to be treated as an upstanding citizen the next. As for your ex-cop story, I’ve seen younger guys disciplined for being aggressive and rude to someone on a traffic stop to find out that the person they were dealing with is the wife of a Captain. Talk about learning a valuable lesson fast on this job. But, from that point on, they are careful in their dealings with people…
Bill, as rational people we both understand correct application of force. I just don’t trust a cop to do the right thing. That is the result of years of harassment.
Anyway… Citizens do not have the same right to violence as a cop does. A cop can beat somebody with a stick to get compliance and it will be defended by his superiors. A citizen though is told to use the minimum force necessary at all times and we don’t have panels of our coworkers who can exculpate us like police do. If I beat somebody with a stick to make them leave my apartment I will get a felony charge and spend thousands to defend myself. A cop who beats somebody with a stick though is a much different story.
Look at that George Zimmerman guy and the double standard in his case. If he was a cop I don’t doubt for a second he would have already been cleared.
If someone breaks into your home to commit a crime and you defend yourself, you won’t be getting arrested by me, I guarantee that. Will you have to provide a statement and testify? Yes. As for a “right to violence”, we are trained to use force as applicable when making a lawful arrest, not just because we feel like it. Now, I know, years ago if you sassed an Officer you got a smack. I was on the receiving end as well, and it was supported by parents. That doesn’t fly today, and if we take that step towards making an arrest and going “hands on”, we are responsible for being able to articulate why. As for George Zimmerman, again look at what the media did. They doctored up the tapes, they played with photos to put their spin on the story and as a result, three NBC employees were just terminated. I’ve said all along that the media convicted him. Because of what they did, they coerced dissent towards the Police for not prosecuting him originally, they encouraged public outcry to call for his arrest, then they got the attention of annoying self-serving actors and highly paid athletes to comment and the Black Panthers jumped on and pretty much should be getting charged for solicitation to commit murder. His not being a cop had nothing to do with it. Originally, the Police didn’t bring charges and the Chief stepped down in an attempt prevent civil unrest because they didn’t arrest. I’m sorry you don’t trust a cop to do the right thing.
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I thought I would jump into this. This is directed at BillB. First, understand that I am here only out of curiosity, having been directed to this link by a news combing site. I found the article both interesting and disturbing.
The comments and replies after the article I found more disturbing than interesting, on ALL sides.
First Bill, I will give a little background so that none of my words are misunderstood, due to a mistaken profiling. First, I do not break the law intentionally, not even traffic laws. I have no inherent problems with either police doing their job or authority. I DO know several policemen.
If you do what you claim, come on over and we’ll have a bar-b-que. I hold no inherent animosity towards law abiding people, police included.
I have some questions for you though. It seems after reading your posts, as well as the others, that you are justifying what is apparently a growing trend of police brutality?
To say the trend is not there is just to deny what is self evident. I have watched videos where calm protestors were fired at with rubber bullets for absolutely no reason. To put this particular video in perspective, the lead protestor was a female lawyer in a business skirt carrying a cardboard sign. Later on, another video emerged of the tactical debrief or the men involved, where they were being praised for what actions they took, and numerous vulgar comments they were making about the lawyer they shot at.
Let me make a point here. The second video which surfaced had to have been leaked by one of the officers present. The officer responsible would not have done so unless he thought it wrong……
The point I want to make here is twofold.
Point 1. These men wearing blue, did knowingly break the law. They knowingly and willingly assaulted, with potential deadly force, someone utilizing their LAWFUL right to peaceful protest. They are, by the law’s own definition, therefore criminals.
If present would you have arrested them? Or even backed a citizen’s arrest? Or even merely filed and pressed charges? If the answer is no, then I state you yourself would therefore be a criminal with them. The charges would be both obstruction of justice and also aiding and abetting. If it is true for those not in blue then it is DOUBLY true for those in blue, who are violating not only the law but their own sworn oath, and duty to that oath.
Point 2: These men swore the same oath you did, but by their own actions do they declare said oaths equivalent to toilet paper. They have no honor, no understanding of duty, and upholding the law and the constitution was mere lip service.
If it was one or two officers, a person could declare it as a standalone rogue event. The fact that numerous men including at least one commanding officer were involved states to everyone whom watches that it is accepted policy. With every mere slap on the wrist, or worse, that surfaces departments nation wide declare the non-existent ‘thin blue line’, and definition of ‘criminal’ is not defined by law but by job title.
You say you do your job, and truly as you said I do not know you. If so I applaud you. Just remember, little has actually changed from when you were int the service. Your JOB is to keep your sworn oath, and that oath in now stricter than when you joined the service.
1. You have sworn to uphold and protect the constitution of the united states against all enemies foreign or domestic.
2. You have sworn to uphold the constitution of your state.
3. You have sworn to uphold the laws of your state.
Truthfully, I am not desiring, asking, nor even expecting a response. But if you truly believe yourself to be an honest and honorable officer, I as a law abiding citizen DO expect you to think about those three things I enumerated above. Ask yourself this question also, have you even read the first two, so that you CAN keep the oath?
When I was in school they were required reading.
Officer Tasca’s dashcam caught the entire event unfolding. There isn’t too much left to guess about when you watch the video. The Ridgefield cops were clearly using excessive force to subdue the unarmed, emotionally distraught young man. No charges whatsoever were filed against the young man. Tasca had the man calm while they waited for the ambulance. The arrival of the additional cops upset the man and he merely asked whay there were so many cops and took a few steps. That precipitated a full scale tackle and beat down. Under cross examination during the hearings – the cops admitted they made no effort to calmly deal with the man – they just took him down and beat him. There are good and bad cops just like there are good and bad people. Why is it that when extremely bad behaviour is exposed folk jump to defend it? Good cops should be commended. Bad ones should be removed from the force, plain and simple – and the public should get to decide who is good and who is bad. After all they do claim to be serving the public….
i wonder how truthfully bill will answer this, if at all,,This is an ethics test question brought to you by the court of public opinion, One fine day 56 year old emma lou decided to visit the downtown shopping district in her community. After a lovely morning of shopping she was exiting the last store thinking about lunch at her favorite deli just up the street, as she steps onto the sidewalk she is slammed into by a brawling crowd of people once she regains her balance she tries to escape the melee suddenly she is shoved into the store window and she hears someone screaming “lets see some id NOW” confused and frightened she tries to comply by shakily reaching into her bag for her wallet, oops officer friendly sees this as a threat and opens fire instantly no stop or i’ll shoot just fires off 5 shots 1 in her head 2 in her chest and 2 thru the store window 1 of which went thru the head of a 2 year old little girl in her mothers arms killing her instantly. QUESTION Was officer friendly right, and why?
Dear Courtofpublicopinion,
Of course I’ll respond honestly. I can honestly say that your scenario screams extreme worst case scenario for everyone involved. If this is merely a hypothetical question that you threw out, it’s not really worth responding to. If this in fact, did occur, it’s horrible. It doesn’t sound like a factually based story, is there perhaps more to it or is this something you just concocted to attempt to antagonize? Quite frankly, it sounds like you are being confrontational. In my opinion, of course. But, if you feel like you need to shoot out attacks in my direction go for it, I’m used to it.
still no real reply, but since it was as stated a test question i am simply curious as is the rest of the public we want to know what kind of mentality we are facing and yes shootings like this hypothectial situation happen everyday across the country if not there would not be so many video accounts and websites like this one dedicated to exposing BAD police work typical of your type you refuse to answer questions but refusing to answer questions of law enforcement can get a civilian killed. hmm no wonder everyone is starting to hate cops
oh and by the way the question was supposed to be tough, you guys are supposed to be trained to handle tough situations and are supposed to be trained to use many methods of disarming a suspect why must deadly force always be the first thought, the question was designed to see if anyone has the capability of thinking, this is also part of your job as a public official