Is the Life of a LEO Worth More Than That of a Non-LEO?

Published On December 17, 2012 | By CopBlock | Articles, Videos

Clyde Freeman asks whether someone’s life is worth more based on their occupation. If the differentiation of value placed on the life of someone that Freeman points out doesn’t sit well with you, feel free to call and share your thoughts with those involved.

This content was originally published to InnocentDown.org and CarolinasCopBlock.org.

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by Clyde Freeman

It’s always sad when anyone loses their life. Police or non-police. No one’s life has more value over another.

Statistics are meticulously gathered by the Department of Justice on the number of LEOs that die each year and specifically how they lose their lives – in the line of duty, off duty, car accident, heart attack, or by the hand of an assailant.

No statistics are kept on the people each year who are killed by law enforcement. Those killed by law enforcement, while technically innocent since they have not been on trial and found guilty (remember, innocent until PROVEN guilty is supposed to be the standard), it would be hard to muster any kind of sympathy for a maniac killer that guns down a cop.

At the other end of the spectrum, there are some clear cut cases where, only after tremendous public pressure and scrutiny, is it revealed police have accidentally or through intent killed an innocent person.

Sandra Allmond and her 11 year old granddaughter, here in NC.

Kelly Thomas, beaten to death by cops in Fullerton, California.

Jose Guerena, shot 71 times in a no-knock raid – the wrong address*.

[Note: The Cato Institute has a map of botched paramilitary raids.]

Still, most cases lie somewhere in between, in a gray area. The problem is the police are the only ones usually present and control all of the evidence, and the general public and media tend to believe the police version of events over any other.

These are the forgotten innocent killed by law enforcement. If you would like to express your support for me placing a sign to remember innocent victims of law enforcement, the following contact information is below:

Lewisville Town Hall
(336) 945-5558
[email protected]
Hank Perkins (“town manager”) [email protected] or (336) 945-5558

Lewisville town’s claimed representatives

  • Dan Pugh (“mayor”) 336.945.4294, [email protected]
  • Sandra Mock (“mayor pro tem”) 336.945.2404, [email protected]
  • Fred Franklin (“council member”) 336.945.4477, [email protected]
  • Robert Greene (“council member”) 336.945.3621, [email protected]
  • Tom Lawsom (“council member”) 336.945.6299, [email protected]
  • Ed Smith (“council member”) 336.945.2710, [email protected]
  • Jeff Zneger (“council member”) 336.946.2460, [email protected]

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  • shawn

    The first story, as far as i can tell, isn’t specific on whether a suspect was fleeing a cop, or hadn’t had timeto notice a cop behind him. If it was a fleeing suspect, HE is responsible for anything that happens outside of a cop being extraordinarily stupid.

    The jose case is real bad. It starts with whether the raid was necessary. They knew about his job and hours. Why not take him into custody at work and then do the search without playing SEALs?
    And then there is the safed gun. I question if it was even in his hand. No Marine would go into a fight with his safety on.
    And then there is delaying medical help. Did it really take so long to secure the place, doubtful, or did they screw up and need him not around to challeng their story? Remember the gun was safe. Also remember their own statement they didn’t find enough to make an arrest.

    And add to this the cop who shot the woman in her own back yard, tbe cop whi shot the clerk running from an armed robber, the cop who shot the 18yo kid at a club for trying to tell him he had the wrong man, the cops who refused to identify themselves at 2AM and shot the innocent man for answering the door with a gun.

    The list goes on, and cops ignore it, unless it is one of their own. They have no sense of shame, or believe anyone should be held to account for these innocent lives.

  • Chris Mallory

    The life of a government employee is worth less than that of a citizen. That is one reason why we need to disarm the cops for a safer America.

    Dash cam video of a thug with a badge murdering a citizen.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCmzJzTQv6Q

  • North Philly

    Yes

  • Common Sense

    … not really. He was a wanted parolee and who armed himself with a knife after a short chase. Seems he opted not to return to prison.

    “Duenez had convictions for felony evading arrest, vehicle theft, possession of a stolen vehicle, possession of controlled substances, burglary, assault with a deadly weapon, participation in a criminal street gang and statutory rape” – another innocent victim.

  • Common Sense

    Lets see, the short answer would probably be yes.

    Officer/deputy/trooper saves (insert baby, woman, man) from (insert fire, flood, attack, crash) vs CB’er who goes to jail for (insert disorderly person, violation of court order, trespassing, drug possession, resisting arrest, wire tapping)

    If society could act like a mature adult, there would be no need for the police.

  • Chris Mallory

    Except that the only knife on scene was in the bed of the pick up. The citizen was not facing the badge wearing thug when the thug opened fire. The thug fired at least 6 shots after the threat was ended. The cop murdered the guy plain and simple.

    It doesn’t matter what his past convictions were. He was shot because he got hung up in a seat belt and the cop felt like shooting someone.

  • Common Sense

    You can see the knife fall from his hand and land in the truck.

    Guess he should have done something different, like stop, and put up his hands. There were clear verbal commands and he still chose to exit and arm himself with a deadly weapon. He made his free will decision.

  • 2minutes

    @Common

    Let’s see, the short answer is no.

    Officer/deputy/trooper (insert rapes, murders, assaults, invades the home of, steals the property of, stalks, plants false evidence on/against) an innocent (insert man, woman, child) vs the average non-LEO, who is, by definition, a law-abiding citizen (and the question wasn’t about CBers, but non-LEO’s).

    If cops, and cop apologists, could accept that not all cops are shining beacons of virtue, and police the police accordingly,
    then there would be no need for Copblock. But until then..

    P.S. just how often do cops save people from fire, flood, attack,
    or crash? Seems like that’s more along the paramedics or fire
    departments line of work.

  • Yankee Fan

    If police could actually behave like the sworn police officers they swore they would be, then there would be no need for IA divisions huh?

  • shawn

    @CS

    It is simple. The cops had a choice in whether to put their lives at risk. Their victims were not given such a choice. And the examples I gave are clear situations where there was no threat, or the cops created their own threat by bad choices.(knocking on a door at 2am without answering and then being surprised when greeted with a gun.)

    But cops are so paranoid that they go to work soiling their pants, even though their job isn’t in the top ten dangerous jobs. Last I heard, I cop has a better chance getting killed driving to or on work, than getting killed during a criminal encounter.
    That paranoia is killing innocent people who did nothing.

  • t.

    @Chris: Wow. You are dumb. With all the incidents and videos available…you choose this one. He choose his own actions. His fault. Should have just stopped.

    Wow, you really are dumb.

  • wiguy

    Great video guys. Ill be interested to see what if any response comes from this.

  • PSOSGT

    Actually they do keep track of “innocent” people. Everytime and in-custody death occurs a deatailed report is completely by the department in addition to a report that is forwarded to DOJ.