The Police State & Warfare State: Both Couched On a Bad Idea

Tonight, when hanging out at the Keene Activity Center, my bud Darryl Perry told me that New Hampshire – where I now live – has a drone base.

A quick Google search by Garret Ean found the write-up below by David Brooks, which was published in The Nashua Telegraph on June 15th, 2012.

In the interest of being unbiased, it’s worth mentioning – as you’ll see if you read the article – it’s claimed that the drones housed in NH are tiny and not militarized.

Is that slight delineation of fact really a big deal (assuming of course, it was true and is still true)?

Anyone thinking can see where the trajectory is heading. Assuming the Statist Quo continues.

How did we reach this point? Where it’s plausible that weaponized aerial tech controlled by some indoctrinated person* sitting in a shipping container out in the southwest desert might push a button and end the life of someone just up the road?

And why is this topic being discussed on Cop Block, which gives as its mission police accountability? Because I don’t believe most folks are happy with the paramilitary nature of policing today**, and because the same perverse incentives are inherent in the warfare state as in the police state.
Much of the growth has happened since 9/11. And now local police departments are getting their own drones.

Let’s apply this to an issue many seem focused on: firearms.

Some people clamor that a big “gun grab” is near. But that wouldn’t be even a consideration if those same folks weren’t first given the authority to regulate guns.

At its root, the real issue is: Why does any uninvolved third party have anything to say about your property?

People boast about having a permit or license to carry concealed, but doesn’t that action – requesting permission to act – denote just who is the slave and who is the master?

When you allow for even a kernel of a double-standard to exist, it will always increase. When you allow a person to steal from you to “protect” you, how do you expect things to go?

That’s why, throughout history, it’s always been the “authorities” responsible for the most death. The most famine, property destruction and environmental degradation. There is simply no accountability. It’s the reason internal investigations can never “fix” the issue police brutality.

The allowance for double-standards – or democide, as coined by R.J. Rummel – brought-about over 250,000,000 deaths last century. Such genocide has occurred due largely to the belief in a bad idea. The police state is based on the same bad idea***.

The proliferation of drones, Bearcats, and prisons is the natural consequence that occurs when a person is granted extra rights.

Do you believe someone, based on their place of occupation or costume worn, has extra rights? I sure don’t. If you don’t, I encourage you to have a conversation about that with those in your sphere.

Ideas have consequences. Think for yourself and encourage others to do the same.

There’s clearly a reality being crafted that many who advocate for peaceful interactions, or just a ‘live and let live’ mindset, aren’t fans of.

Fortunately, the future is not set, and many good folks are working to bring-about one better.

BTW – Essam, the artist who made the NYPD drone image at the top of this post, was kidnapped by men with badges. Is the “free” society you want to perpetuate?

* with the glaring exception of Brandon Bryant
** fortunately more current police employees are thinking for themselves
*** watch my recent video, Want to End Police Brutality? Focus on the Institution

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Military says drone aircraft are based at or near Mount Washington
by David Brooks, The Nashua Telegraph June 15, 2012

FRIDAY MORNING UPDATE: Special Operations Command spokesman Ken McGraw says that group “does not have a UAS/UAV base in New Hampshire.” He says Wasp and Raven drones are “Army pieces of equipment,” issued to Army special operations units.

Unmanned drone aircraft have been based on or around Mount Washington by the military, according to presentations given by the Department of Defense and Air Force in 2010 and 2011, but it’s not clear when or why.

“Mt. Washington” is listed as the location for the basing of small unmanned drones in both an April 2010 presentation given by Dyke Weatherington, deputy director of the unmanned warfare section of the Department of Defense, and a June 2011 presentation by Lt. Col. Maggie Howard of the U.S. Air Force Safety Branch.

Both presentations, which are available online, indicate the Mount Washington operation is overseen by Special Operations Command, which oversees worldwide use of special operations elements of the Army, Navy and Air Force.

Mount Washington is the only location in New England where drones were listed as being based.

The presentation indicates that the Mount Washington operation involved small drones, models known as Wasp and Raven.

A Wasp drone can weigh less than a pound, so small they can be launched by a slingshot, while the Raven usually weighs around 4-6 pounds and can be launched by hand.

Both are powered by electric motors and according to publicly released information are used for reconnaissance, carrying cameras or other recording gear. The Raven in particular has had extensive use in Iraq and Afghanistan wars, since it can fly as high as 15,000 feet above sea level at speeds of 30-60 mph.

Neither presentation gives any specifics about the Mount Washington listing, such as location or purpose or how often the drones fly.

The next closest operation is in New Jersey, although several locations in upstate New York were listed in both presentations as future sites for drones.

Calls to the Department of Defense, Air Force and the Special Operations Command were made by The Telegraph, but no more information was available Thursday.

The listings were first made available Wednesday by the group Public Intelligence, a 3-year-old international nonprofit that provides documents, analysis and “open-source intelligence products from the private and public sector,” arguing that it can help “engender a more informed and proactive populace.”

When contacted by The Telegraph, the group said it had no more information about the Mount Washington listing.

David Brooks can be reached at 594-6531 or [email protected] Also, follow Brooks’ blog on Twitter (@GraniteGeek).

  • BluEyeDevil

    It’s called the militarization of the police. LOL, Sure glad I’m a militarized citizen. Like I’ve been saying these fucking cops haven’t tangled with grown men who are armed, trained, organized and ready to mobilize. It would seem that most altercations with the cops are usually 6 cops on one mentally disturbed person, or some college kids or something involving overwhelming force. For the most part truly cowardly acts. All you cop loving fuckers and government agents can keep drinking your kool-aid and thinking your in control. When the shit hits the fan we are coming in the night; when your home, or sitting in your car doing paper work, or eating at the local food establishment, or coming to a fake 911 call, or coming to confiscate our guns, or sending your tax collectors, or you get the picture.
    You cop lovers can call me crazy all you want, but don’t call me not prepared.

  • BluEyeDevil

    Check this one out,

    The Warren Police Department of Warren, MI has recently suspended the use of Tasers due to the deaths of Robert ‘Tazzy’ Mitchell and Richard Kokenos. Mitchell was tasered in 2009 by Warren police officers and Kokenos in 2011. In a press release, Cora Mitchell, Robert Mitchell’s mother, stated, “This elimination of the use of Tasers provides a small amount of relief for me and my family. If as a result of Robert’s death, other lives will be spared then I am gratified that Robert’s death will not have been in vain.” The Detroit Coalition Against Police Brutality, attorney Byron Pitts of Cornelius, Pitts & Associates, and NPAP member attorneys Bill Goodman, Julie Hurwitz, and Kathryn Bruner James of Goodman & Hurwitz, P.C. all represent the Mitchell family.

  • takaru

    yep, that sums that up, and now a word from the cops on this site……..go ahead cops spew out your hate for rights of citizens and the citizens themselves……

  • http://www.policemisconduct.net Glenn

    That NYPD drone poster is priceless! It cuts right to the reality of the matter, and the cops hate it when their true intentions are exposed. But you just know the cops are chomping at the bit to get their hands on military drones.

    What I can’t wait for is the day the NYPD vaporizes a busload of Catholic nuns with their new toy, probably over an unpaid parking ticket, then coming here to read the hilariously inept comments from the peanut gallery.

    Something like common sense (or t., underoath, or any of the other bootlicking assholes) saying “hey if that nun woulda paid that jaywalking ticket, 10 nuns and 50 innocent bystanders would not have been slaughtered by a dozen AMG-114 Hellfire missiles, good shoot!”.

    Time will tell!

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  • Common Sense

    I guess it begs the question, whether its a police helicopter or a drone, what’s the difference? One is far cheaper to operate. As technology advances, you will see the use of more cameras, either on towers, poles, or drones is far greater numbers.

    Remember, once you leave your house, you lose all expectations of privacy.

  • sux2bme

    The most disturbing aspect of drone development by the police state above and beyond expanding surveillance capability is their arming them with tazers and the like.

    The public good of officer safety will be the rationale and the claimed non-lethality of the tazer will keep these systems from being considered weaponized.

    However, as is legion on youtube, the police state is quite fond of employing these as compliance devices and now they’ll be able to do so autonomously or in remote anonymity. Imagine the moving electric fence that is invisible to you until the swarm appears to, ahem, encourage your voluntary return to the free-speech zone.

    I also expect that the increasing asymmetry of force continuum between the police state and the public they ostensibly serve to continue with it being strictly prohibited for the public to posses or deploy this class of technology.

    I weep for my progeny …

    * In the future, the politicians will clamor for bans of high
    * capacity battery packs because nobody needs an assault lazer
    * and only the police and military should have them.

  • JetClarke

    “Remember, once you leave your house, you lose all expectations of privacy.”

    And yet, point a cellphone at a cop in the States and see what happens?

  • t.

    @Common: Now don’t you know…it only matters if its their rights. They don’t care about anyoknes else’s. The fact that public places are open to view only goes one direction around here.

    I’m disappointed in you for not remembering that.

  • Common Sense

    I was going to point out the differences between private vs public officials and then such things as ‘viewing’ vs audio recording, and of course 2 party consent. One would think that the copblocker would all be behind this, complete accountablity, you can be a keyboard voyeur…oh wait, they don’t want to be the one’s being watched, thank t, I forget that from time to time.

  • BluEyeDevil

    hey common,
    If i see one of those drones looking in my or my neighbors window I’m shooting it right out of the fucking sky and of course video tapping the shooting straight to Youtube.

  • Common Sense

    Of course you would Devil, because you’re super cool awesome guy!

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  • http://www.policemisconduct.net Glenn

    Translating dickhead into english, what common sense is really saying is “hey if you didnt want to get blowed up by that drone you shoulda stayed in your house, hippy”.

    Can you imagine how miserable common senses life must be?

  • Peter Stanislaw

    The comment section was starting to look like an echo chamber, so:
    Who WILL regulate the guns? I, for one, am NOT an “uninvolved third party” – guns tend to make you a very involved party very quickly.

    PS – a “Koch fellow” at the DPA, Peter? Hmmm…

  • shawn


    There is a big difference between being able to see into my yard and government keeping tabs on its citizens. Citizens have rights, governments do not. Government is a tool to serve, not a master.

  • YankeeFan

    Remember, once you leave your house, you lose all expectations of privacy.

    Yes commen thats true. Then why in fuck do we have a federal court of appeals in a qualified immunity hearing affirming the state courts ruling. Seems that police have not got this message or Simon Glick would not have been arrested for pointing a cellphone at police on a public area as they arrested some guy . I thank god that the god awful Illinois wiretapping law is finally done with and a citizen can no longer be charged with a felony that could imprison him for 15 years for such a simple act.

  • Anthony

    While I doubt it will actually be effective I have created a petition to the President regarding the police brutality that is continuing and getting worse in the country. Please check it out and sign. The link is http://wh.gov/PHX8. Sign it and pass the word around. Need 25000 signatures in 30 days to get a response from the White House. At the very least we will get to see where the President actually stands on the issue. Lets get their attention and see what happens

  • thomas vesely

    @ common sense

    are you a cop ?

  • courtofpublicopinion

    ok got it viewing vs audio so from now on i’ll just turn the sound off fair enough? dont really need it anyway since in most cases the actions recorded speak way louder than words and that is what bothers all of you cop types most isn’t it?