From January 3rd, 2013:
Second Circuit: You Can Flip Off Cops 2013.01.03
So yeah – you can flip off those who wear a badge, but is it advisable?
First, consider the act itself:
If you would have flipped off someone due to an egregious action on their part, then, being consistent, it shouldn’t matter their place of employment. Conversely, if you would not have flipped off someone you pass, then doing so to a police employee is a deviation.
Treating someone different based solely on their claimed authority – whether being hesitant to flip them off when you would otherwise, or flipping them off when you wouldn’t – is reactionary. If your actions are caused by others aren’t you then buying into the double-standards put-forth?
Secondly, consider the ramifications of the act:
Would you prefer to live in a place where you were regularly flipped off or where you received many waves?
Sure, if the former was to occur, it’d very well mean that the act would lessen in impact. But, going back to the question, which would you welcome?
True, the act – extending your middle finger or waving your hand – isn’t inherently good or bad. But according to the cultural framework considered the norm for this society, the motivation for the former is hostility and for the latter friendliness.
I know I’d prefer to live in a community where more folks were friendly. That’s why my default isn’t to flip off anyone, even those employed as police.
I’d proffer that most who went into policing did so with good intentions. Wouldn’t you like for police employees to quit their job and engage in actions that don’t rely on coercion? What tactic is more likely to bring that about?
This is why the CopBlock.org/WelcomeLEOs page exists – in the hope that current police employees see it as a resource, think for themselves, and decide to act according to their conscience.
But why would you?
No, Silvestri, the question is why WOULDN’T you.
Man, the pig swine subhuman pedophile rapist cops are losing case after case in federal court. The people and thus the jury pools despise cops, and the judiciary is also demonstrating their disdain for cops.
We are WINNING, people!
Meanwhile, common sense and his many alternate accounts are busy oogling gay pedo porn, hahhaha!
Any police officer that gets their panties in a twist about someone giving them the bird needs to take a chill pill.
I have better things to concern myself with.
And Glenn must have somee kind of gay pedo porn fetish. He talks about it an awful lot.
Yea, I got banned from the Arapahoe County Library (home of the most corrupt cops and government this side of the Rockies – as bad or worse than Denver county next to us) for giving the bird to a public employee on my way out because they monitor my internet activity and what I check out even, ever since I posted warnings to the public about sex offenders in the area, a CopBlock flyer, and some I had made about Arapahoe County cops (google Sheriff Patrick Sullivan and the theater shooter case and Judge Sylvestor, etc., etc.0. Hope you’re viewing THIS, Arapahoe County! hahahahahahahahaha I’m AT THE LIBRARY that banned me, then wisely reinstated my public privileges on Friday. If it’s not illegal to flip off a cop, it certainly isn’t illegal to flip off a woman watching me from behind the counter. hahahahahahahahaha
Contrary to underoaths assertion, it would appear that the police officers that were taken into federal court did indeed have their little panties in a bunch. And, given that I do not see any of their police peers denouncing their hatred of the First Amendment, we may assume all cops have an equal hatred for freedom of expression.
On the matter of underoath and gay pedo porn, here is a hint, fruitcake: It is bad enough that you admit to being a pederast, underoath, so stop spewing your sick desires all over the forum. Idiot.
LOL, true story…….
I just flipped a cop the bird today and he smiled and flipped the bird back at me and kept on going.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I am easily amused
Hah, way to go Blue. It is good to know that the cops understand their place in society. Universally hated and loathed.
Awe …how cute Glenn! More accusations that you can’t prove or back up. You are the cop block poster child!
But of course, if we flip you off…you’ll wine like a little bitch to the chief!! lol
Ha ha ha, exactly.
But it’s okay, I’m sure the police will happily trade ‘the bird’ in lieu of paid vacations for allegations that must be investigated, 3-4 weeks of vacation time, double or triple time for court appearances, flextime, holiday pay, longevity, education, language bonuses, traffic laws (meh), a nationwide media, court system and procecutor’s office, state and federal district/circuit/appeals/supreme court that typically sides with them, and lets not forget a strong police union.
…..yeah, give them the finger all you want Glenn, I’m sure you feel better afterwards as they smile and drive away.
I’m carrying a firearm 100% of the time, so I try to make it a habit to not flip anybody off. It’s a matter of never appearing to be the aggressor. Still glad to see when free speech gets filed under free speech.
Sgt,
I am all for any protected free speech but you are right, they would cry to the Chief then consult an attorney and attempt a lawsuit for mental anguish and suffereng!!
LOL, Common,
Will not be long and all those perks will be gone. OH BY THE WAY………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. ..!.(‘_’).!.. FUCKER, LOL
The court system is not typically siding with police on these rights issues. They are losing as they like to “typically “misuse or apply laws that do not pertain. Such as the Pennsylvania State Police and other agencies that were using disorderly conduct against peeps cussing in public. There was even a drudge report headline on it a couple years back and you can research it. The aclu threaten a lawsuit against them all and they agreed to stop violating the rights of citizens with laws that were not meant to be used in that fashion, I wish I could say I am shocked but to use a Reagan Line..”There you go again” to the police.
As a bonus, according to a 60 minutes investigation, the Chicago PD leads the nation I think they said, in documented false confessions. Notrhing says good police work like taking a black teen in a room and making hjim confess to a crime where there is no evidence linking him to the body. After all we all know a teen stands a good chance against a group of detectives with a drafted confession telling him to sign or else. In these case I kinda described, the dna in the body was identified to a know rapist and murderer where the DA, the same bitch trying to keep the Illinois wiretapping law alive, stated it is possible they raped and killed her as they confessed, but the other guy came along and committed an act of necrophelia. I know this one doesn’t really apply here but what the hell.
***PSOSGT says:
January 13, 2013 at 8:42 pm
But of course, if we flip you off…you’ll wine like a little bitch to the chief!! lol***
-If the cops OFF duty, no one could care less. If they’re ON duty, they’re expected to maintain standards of professionalism and integrity. Is that really so hard to understand? Are you an actual adult?!
-Wow and other people are agreeing with you! Astounding!
Wow, these idiot activists must really feel they won something for their cause. I’ll bet they are in their parent’s basements raiding dad’s liquor cabinet and trying to light a cigarette they found on the sidewalk. All of that to celebrate.
PSOSGT says:
January 13, 2013 at 8:42 pm
But of course, if we flip you off…you’ll wine like a little bitch to the chief!! lol
you could do the same, if we were at work.
You work for us……not the other way around…
@slappy
ha ha ha
@abuse
No, actually, PSO works for the community as a whole. Unless your name is on the payer line of his check.
But if it makes you feel better, just think that the/next ticket you get, your wrote it to yourself, since you paid the cop to do it, and then you get ot pay some ‘extra’ on top of that.
@Badgeabuse
@Psosgt
Cops always seem to fail to understand professional conduct. As BA said, on the job i can’t just do what i want either. It isn’t as though being punished for on the job behhavior is unusual. Nor am i in a position to exercise power over unwilling people.
hey common
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Sorry, I feel that flipping the bird should be in response to some injustice when you have no other form of communication. Happens on the road unless you have a PA. This was close but no cigar. There was no injustice done by radaring the vehicle, if he had it on, especially to the passenger. So, the digital expression was more of a protest and an attempted insult to the police officer. Nevertheless, the police should not invent a bunch of legal malarkey in response. The “can I talk to you man to man” was clearly not assertive but aggressive or even a threat. What would be the reason for that when you are already free to go?
I like the old days, when I could ride by a statey on my chopper with straight pipes going 90 and we would just wave at each other. Live and let live.
But, given the bad choices by many involved in this incident, it worked out with no injuries. I wonder how much the whole thing cost? There’s the rub.
@ PSOSGT Tell you the truth I would generally consider an officer who flipped me the bird back as having a decent sense of humor and very well composed. That is the type of officer I would enjoy patrolling my neighborhood.
However as I generally try not to poke the overweight, donut sucking, bad attitude, life hating, heavily armed tigers with a stick. I generally wouldn’t flip a cop off. Despite being legal, being hit with a scorpion(whip baton) hurts.
You guys.. don’t feed the trolls.
Cops work for us. If one of your employees gives you the finger of course you’re going to do something about it.
But you can give them the the finger as much as you like. That’s what’s cool about being the boss.
Your employee doesn’t like it? Then they can find a different job.
Someone forgot to tell PSOSGT that life aint fair. Deal with it.
Otto, you are correct, cops work for you. So, the next time you get a citation or are taken to jail, consider it a return on your investment.