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D.J. Prator Pushes Back Against LA Sign That Was Only a Revenue-Generator

This story was shared with CopBlock.org by Miguel Contreras of SoCal Connected, KCET. It was originaly posted to KCET on Jan. 15th, 2013 about one man – D.J. Prator – who worked to warn his neighbors of the presence of road pirates.

Though not explicitly Copblocking, his efforts undoubtedly helped prevent those in his community from being harassed for an action that had no victim.

From Prator:

I tried to warn as many motorist as I could, and it got to the point, maybe throughout a three-hour period, maybe 1 or 2 cars got by me. You know, we hit that language barrier, and I’d see some Hispanics come down and I’d say, “Roll down your window! Roll down your window!” And I’d try to tell them not to make the right turns. So what I’d do is point to the signs and say, “Mira, mira, mira! Policia, policia!” and they got it! They’d see the police, and they got it, and they would continue straight.

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As if driving around L.A. weren’t tough enough! Here’s a story about a right turn into the ridiculous. It’s about a traffic sign that shows up seemingly out of nowhere. It doesn’t resemble any other sign, anywhere else. And all it appears to do is generate tickets. Lots of them! That is, until one person decided to fight City Hall, one car at a time.

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TRANSCRIPT:
Laurel Erickson/Reporter: The streets of Los Angeles have signs telling you “don’t turn left,” “don’t’ turn right,” “stop for a detour,” and “go one way.” There are 700,000 of them, but it was this one that’s been the talk of the town. Well, at least the talk of the corner of 7th and Broadway. Just ask shopkeeper Fred Mohamedy.

Were you here, Fred, when that sign went up 15 years ago?

Mohamedy: Yeah.

Erickson [to Mohamedy]: What happened? Why did it go up?

Mohamedy: I didn’t see who put it up, but they just put the sign, you know.

Erickson: It’s one of the busiest intersections in downtown, and for 15 years, Fred has sat on this stool, watching drivers make a wrong turn by going right when it says you can’t, at least between 3pm and 6pm.

Erickson [to Mohamedy]: Have you been counting the tickets ever since?

Mohamedy: Yeah, I try to help people, and just let them know don’t make a right turn because you’ll get a ticket.

Erickson: Even Fred’s boss got one.

Roberto Denedel/Business Owner: I got a ticket myself. The officer was across the street with the motorcycle. He ran after me to the parking, all the way to the parking and wrote me a ticket. That’s really ridiculous!

Erickson: He says the sign even ruined a customer’s wedding day.

Denedel: They took his car and. They impound it his car, and he was getting married tomorrow, I swear to god. He cried. He had all his beer, his drinks in the trunk, and he had to take it out because of the stupid “no right turn.”

Erickson: And perhaps the right turn would’ve continued ruining weddings, and a whole lot more, if it weren’t for this man, D.J. Prator.

Erickson [to D.J. Prator]: All, right so here we are. This is the beginning of everything, right?

Prator: That’s correct.

Erickson: If every cause needs a crusader, the drivers of L.A. have D.J. He lives just around the corner and was walking down street one day, when he noticed a police officer writing tickets for drivers who turned right between 3 and 6. It happened the next day, and the day after that, and the day after that. Seven days a week, even on Sunday! So how did you get the idea for doing this?

Prator: Well you know what, I just thought it was an injustice because I had never seen a limited “no right turn” sign anywhere else in the downtown area. And I though it was just a ticket trap to raise revenue for the City of Los Angeles.

Erickson: The tickets are pricey — 234 bucks — especially painful for the low-income, high immigrant population living in the area. D.J. shows us where those caught in the ticket trap ended up.

Prator: And it was happening so often, sometimes you would have a line of cars, three, four at a time.

Erickson: All parked up around here?

Prator: All parked in the same area right here.

Erickson: Ground zero was just across the street from Josh Erazo’s clothing shop.

Erazo: Sometimes it becomes like an attraction. It caused so much attention. All of us, the businesses here, we just come out and look at what’s going on. There’s just files and lines of cars.

Erickson: And when the people who were cited, what were their reactions to the surprise?

Prator: Stunned. From what I could see, they were stunned, and, of course, unhappy.

Erickson: So D.J. became the Paul Revere of 7th and Broadway. 3 to 6 every day, he alerted drivers to the sign.

Prator: I tried to warn as many motorist as I could, and it got to the point, maybe throughout a three-hour period, maybe 1 or 2 cars got by me. You know, we hit that language barrier, and I’d see some Hispanics come down and I’d say, “Roll down your window! Roll down your window!” And I’d try to tell them not to make the right turns. So what I’d do is point to the signs and say, “Mira, mira, mira! Policia, policia!” and they got it! They’d see the police, and they got it, and they would continue straight.

Erickson: He even took photos of police writing tickets.

Prator: Well that didn’t sit too well with the LAPD. So they go upset with me. One guy, actually, one of the motorists – one of the LAPD motorcycle officers – actually called the police on me!

Erickson: The LAPD declined comment on this story, but George Rodriquez, who works at the jewelry store across the street, recalls the LAPD repeatedly approaching D.J.

Erickson [to George Rodriguez]: You saw the cops talking to him?

Rodriguez: Oh yeah, yeah!

Erickson: Did other people in the neighborhood watch this going on?

Rodriguez: Yes, too many. Those guys on the corner. Those guys over there. The guys over here.

Erickson: Fred saw it too.

Mohamedy: I think they just don’t want him to stay here. They tell him, “Why you stay here? You tell people to not make a right. Don’t’ do that. Just let them come and take ticket and move from here.” And he said, “I’m not doing nothing. I just do my job. That’s all.”

Erickson: D.J. thought it was intimidation. Whatever it was, it didn’t stop him from finding out why that sign was there in the first place.

Prator: This is the only type of sign in all of the Downtown Los Angeles. If they were to have it down in the Financial District, over on Spring St – not Spring St. — Figueroa, Olive, those streets, and they had no right turn signs, I would have not said anything. This is the only corner in all of downtown.

Erickson: D.J. wanted to know why, so he filed public records requests with the city. What did he discover?

Prator: They couldn’t find to where anybody authorized the placement of the sign.

Erickson: But it has been up there for years!

Prator: It’s like it appeared out of thin air.

Erickson: But this was no phantom sign. By D.J.’s calculation, it was a serious moneymaker for the city.

Prator: We estimated that over 50,000 people in a 15-year period have received citations on this one corner alone, generating over $13 million in revenue for the City of Los Angeles.

Erickson: While we couldn’t find out how much revenue the sign has officially generated, we do know approximately 21,000 cars pass through this intersection every day, making it one the busiest in Downtown. And that “no right turn” sign is tough to see because the corner is a major bus stop. If you are behind a bus, forget it.

Prator: So I would stand right here.

Erickson: So nobody could see that from behind the buses coming up.

Prator: Nobody. This car right here could not see if there was a sign here. They just wouldn’t’ be able to see it.

Erickson: Like that guy right there. He’d never see it, and he’d make the turn!

Erickson: D.J. Prator’s one-man protest continued. He even created a website devoted to the so-called “traffic trap” on 7th and Broadway. But a call from an engineer at the city’s transportation department put the brakes on that illegal right turn.

Prator: So, after about a month, he contacted me and told me, “Well, look. I authorized that the sign be removed.” I was elated about that. And then, within the next day, the crew came down – they were gone.

Erickson: You cost the city almost one million dollars?

Prator: A year. Yes.

Erickson: And you saved these people, who probably aren’t making a whole lot of money, almost a million dollars a year?

Prator: That is correct.

Erickson: Wow!

Rodriguez: The police they put signs and nobody can say nothing. Nobody complain, but this man is unbelievable!

Erickson: But you can believe it! The millions of drivers who can now turn right whenever they want will probably never know the name of the guy who righted a $234 wrong. D.J. Prator, the ticket trap hero. For “SoCal Connected,” I’m Laurel Erickson.

About Pete Eyre

Pete Eyre self-describes as a voluntaryist and hails from the Midwest. He went to undergrad and grad school for law enforcement, ultimately concluding that he could have a bigger impact through other avenues. In addition to being active with Cop Block, he's interned at the Cato Institute, been a Koch Fellow placed at the Drug Policy Alliance, Directer of Campus Outreach at the Institute for Humane Studies, Crasher-in-Chief at Bureaucrash, a contractor for the Future of Freedom Foundation and co-founder of the Motorhome Diaries and Liberty On Tour.

14 Responses to “D.J. Prator Pushes Back Against LA Sign That Was Only a Revenue-Generator”

  1. Truthspew says:

    There are a lot of signs out there all over the United States that have no basis behind them. Good for Prator for getting LA to remove the sign.

  2. Glenn says:

    This is exactly, precisely the kind of direct action that citizens need to engage in when dealing with the police.

  3. shawn says:

    T keeps saying this stuff isn’t for revenue. But then why weird signs that no one can explain and for which cops park in wait like Black Friday shoppers? Why did i go through a section of US41 where they raised the speed limit for a whole200ft, then put a sign dropping back to 45 hidden behind a tree? Whe redlight cameras that now have shortened yellows? Ect. ect.

    Take the profit out of tickets and you’ll see actual safety enforcement instead of cops acting like a revenuer. Man that ryhms with something.

  4. Chris says:

    Good job man! I’ll bet the police hate you…

  5. Maddness35 says:

    Score one for the good guys, CopBlock!

    Songs should be sung of this D.J., children shall be named for him, and for the record, What makes a man or a woman of integrity? Thank you DJ for showing us in case we forgot.

  6. KAZ says:

    This guy deserves a free copblock shirt! What do you say Pete and Ademo are you gonna send him one?

  7. JohnK says:

    I would like to know why it put their in the first place? If there was no traffic study as to the legit reason it was installed, people should file a class action lawsuit.

  8. Backfire says:

    It’s most likely there because (as stated in the article) it is one of LA’s busiest intersections. During the rush hour (3-6) there is no turn on red. It’s to keep the traffic from backing up, and to hopefully keep the intersection and cross walk clear. These signs are everywhere in California, near high traffic areas. I really don’t see what’s so hard about waiting for the light to turn green…

  9. Shawn says:

    @Backfire

    Um, no one can seem to explain why it is there. And from what I gathered, it isn’t about waiting for a green, as you can’t make the turn at all from what i read.

    As for busiest intersections, well yes you would place a revenue generator where it will do the most good.

  10. Common Sense says:

    Wow, you can’t turn on red, but have to wait for a green?

    Where’s the parade? Did I mess the award celebration? Curse you NHL for drawing my attention away from this amazing feat of….of….FREEDOM!!

  11. Simple Jew says:

    B”H

    to the dingleberries posting whats big deal about waiting for light to turn green…….

    it was no right turn PERIOD between 3-6pm

  12. mikey says:

    what does this have to do with the police being responsible for the sign?? who’s to say the city govt didnt have the public works people put it up there and not correctly document the location of the sign?? police dept’s work for the city…get paid by the city! you really think those officers go out there and give tix thinking they will get something back?? lol!! id blame the city before id blame the police….hell, theyr most likely just ordered to work that intersection and get violators! thats how most depts are….they r told by politicians/higher ups to enforce certain violations strictly!

  13. indio007 says:

    It is unconstitutional to make vehicle laws specifically for raising revenue.

    Every plays pretend that but knows the truth. Traffic laws are for 2 purposes , raise revenue and to protect the insurance industries bottom line.

    There is actually a news story in which Michigan politicians are complaining that people obeyed a red light camera because the revenue went down.

    They openly admit an illegal purpose to the camera.

  14. steve says:

    Why is this a “CopBlock” issue? The police do not put up traffic control signs. That is the purview of separate agencies (i.e. City/County Assessor, Dept. of Transportation, among others).

    The fact is, I genuinely applaud the actions of “D.J.” for warning drivers not to violate the ordinance, and questioning its validity. On the other hand, however, if there is an ordinance/sign prohibiting a driver’s actions, the police have the right and the RESPONSIBILITY to enforce it.

    In long and in short, we, the Electorate, must remember that laws ARE debatable, but our CONSTITUTION specifies that the proper venue for that debate lies in the court (as in a judicial decision) or in the legislature (as in a repeal).

    We should remember that the police are our agents. OUR agents, acting on behalf of us all. It is their sworn duty to ensure adherence to the laws we as a society have enacted.

    If we have allowed poorly conceived or poorly written legislature to become law, that is OUR collective failing, not a failing of the police.

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