After you read this ask yourself: Who is really the aggressor in this situation?
Homeowners shot and handcuffed an intruder who had entered their house. For that, a group of strangers, totally uninvolved, have taken their kids and have threatened them with a ransom or a cage.
Such aggressive actions are claimed just because the homeowners had dared to have in their dwelling a plant that some other people, also completely removed from the situation, say they can’t have.
It’s claimed that Stuart Dunnings III, Ingham County Prosecutor, will “determine if the shooting was justified.”
Huh? Who is this guy? He’s paid via the same avenues (a protection racket) and suffers from the same perverse incentives as those who quite literally kidnapped and demanded obligations not owed.
The homeowners grew marijuana. That harms no one. They are being targeted because they dared disobey an edict set by someone who claimed their authority. When that is questioned their legitimacy erodes, hence the allocating of their (stolen) resources.
I don’t think this perverted “justice” will always be the norm as people are realizing such situations pretty ridiculous.
-Pete Eyre
Ingham County Sheriff’s Office
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57 pot plants found at Holt home where man was shot, beaten, cuffed
by Laura Misjak on 2013.02.25 at LansingStateJournal.com
Ingham County Sheriff’s Office website
DELHI TWP. — When deputies arrived at a house early Thursday for a reported home invasion, the suspected intruder was lying just inside the front door, handcuffed, with multiple bullet wounds to his torso.
Officials said the 20-year-old man, who they said was armed with a .38-caliber revolver when he broke into the home in 4200 block of West Holt Road, had been shot several times by a woman who lived in the house. The man also had been beaten, apparently with a baseball bat.
He was in critical condition Thursday at Sparrow Hospital, officials said. His name was not released.
“It’s movie-like, almost,” Ingham County Sheriff Gene Wriggelsworth said at a news conference. “How often do you go to a scene where you’ve got an intruder (who’s) been shot by the homeowners and he’s laying there handcuffed? … It’s just very unusual.”
The reason for the home invasion, in all likelihood, Wriggelsworth said, was the 57 marijuana plants of varying size growing in the basement.
“That person went there because he knew what was going on (in the house),” Wriggelsworth said.
Investigators found a total of seven guns inside the house — including the double-barreled .45-caliber/.410-gauge handgun the woman used to shoot the suspected intruder. Among the guns found was a Romanian-made replica of an AK-47.
It has not been determined what charges the people living in the home could face. No arrests had been made Thursday. The woman, a man and four children ranging in age from 8 months to 10 years old lived there, officials said. They were not injured.
The children remain in the custody of the man and woman, Wriggelsworth said. The Lansing State Journal is not naming the man and woman because they haven’t been charged with any crime.
David Akerly, a spokesman for the Michigan Department of Human Services, could not confirm whether Child Protective Services is involved, citing privacy laws.
Akerly, speaking generally, said a key question CPS workers ask themselves when called to a scene is whether there is imminent risk of harm to a child.
“We’re going to immediately contact the court and attempt to take kids (into protective custody) if our people can’t get over the hump of answering that question with a ‘no,’” he said.
He added that law enforcement has the ability to take children into protective custody if they feel the children are at risk of imminent harm and then follow up with DHS.
Ingham County Prosecutor Stuart Dunnings III will determine if the shooting was justified.
Wriggelsworth said it’s believed the intruder entered the home through a back door that was unlocked.
An altercation took place in the living room, at which time the woman retrieved the double-barreled handgun and shot the intruder at point blank range, he said.
Neighbors said that the house has been the site of suspicious activity in recent years. The man, woman and children had lived there about three years, they said.
A lot of people going in and out of the house was common, said Carl Acker, who lives nearby. The odor of marijuana was obvious at times, he said, even from far away.
“This house has brought a lot of controversy,” Acker said, adding: “When people drive up, run inside the home, are there only five or six minutes — you know something’s not right.”
On Thursday law enforcement officers could be seen removing multiple items from the house, including at least one large lamp used for growing plants indoors as well as apparent marijuana plants.
Pete, as a former Michigan resident (born and raised), I can tell you that Copblock would have ALOT of footage of officers gone rouge. The Ingham county sheriffs department has a history of covering their tracks to prevent their officers from being held accountable for any wrong doing. I have first hand experience with it. Ingham Couty, Delhi TWP., and the Mason police have for years been on the edge of corruption.
Obedient: How do you see corruption in this?
Now….the problem of them defending their home (and drug business) is one thing. She shoots him…OK. but then beats him with a baseball bat too??? And let me guess, you don’t think there should be charges for that?
As for charging the homeowners for their drug business. And they shouldn’t be charged why? The house was clearly a blight on the neighborhood to the point where now someone has been killed. Drugs=guns=crimes=dangers to society.
AND you think that these people are fit parents??
Wow.
The first rule about Growing Pot Club is that YOU DON’T TALK ABOUT GROWING POT!
The homeowner (daddy) and ex-felon, faces charges for the grow, delivery of 5 to 45 kilos of marijuana and being a felon possessing a firearm. Luckily for him, someone else stepped up and said the mushroom grow was theirs. He claims he’s licensed to grow but even his attorney said his client, “had every intention of following Michigan’s Medical Marijuana law.” I think he failed to disclosed he’s an ex-felon on his application.
The woman who shot the intruder will not face any charges.
The man who broke in, is facing charges as well.
All 5 children were removed after a court hearing and placed with relatives. Additionally, the daddy and ‘eight others’ were hiding in the attic when DHS arrived.
‘t’… If it had been leo’s doing the beating, you would find some way of justifying it you dirty little badge licker….
Common you too are nothing but a badge licker and disgust me along with your fellow child rapist friend! Bet he sent you your cherished picture’s you sick ****.
These two justify police crime’s to the point of even backing them after they killed poor Kelly Thomas!
I know the truth and facts hurt. But being wrong so often, you’d think you would be accustomed to it by now.
Ian: Good advice. The only problem is that there is a reason the call it “dope” and not smart.
If pot was legal, home invasion robberies for this reason would stop. But, as long as pot remains illegal, the homeowners/growers know that this is a possibility and have a responsibility as parents to keep their children safe, even if it is perfectly legal for them to grow it. After all, aren’t they aware, as any reasonable person would be, that this type of activity attracts criminals? Of course they are! Or they would not have an AK-47 and a bunch of other guns, which they probably have to protect themselves against just such an eventuality. Harmless plant or not, they have created the same conditions for themselves and their children (and their neighbors!) as any heroin or crack dealer would operating out of a home.
Creating and maintaining unsafe conditions for their children could warrant them being placed elsewhere, and Child Protective Services is not wrong to question their living conditions. No mention at all was made of the living conditions, however (cleanliness, adequate food and sanitation), as well as storage of firearms and if the children could ever get access to them.
Cookie: Very wrong. Look to Mendocino county in CA. The robberies take place because they know the dope is there. They also go looking for the proceeds of the drug selling business itself.
“Now….the problem of them defending their home (and drug business) is one thing. She shoots him…OK. but then beats him with a baseball bat too??? And let me guess, you don’t think there should be charges for that?”
Dead on. How many times have we saw cops gain control of a situation and then keep pounding away? No one has that right. Not a cop, not a regular citizen. Gain control and then stop.
My favorite was a pharmacist who shot an armed robber. Good shot. Followed the other guy out the door. Umm, not so good. Especially when bullets that miss don’t stop. I mention this about cops A LOT.
The ringer? He came back in with an empty gun, got a fresh one, walked up to the unconscious thug on the floor and finished the job. He was surprise when people called that murder.
Anyone who will engage in the drug trade around their kids is automatically a bad parent. Regardless of the debate about drugs, it invites violence into your home. Is that what you want to do for your kids?
“Cookie: Very wrong. Look to Mendocino county in CA. The robberies take place because they know the dope is there. They also go looking for the proceeds of the drug selling business itself.”
They do it at liqueur stores too. Any place large amounts of money can be had is a target. A thief doesn’t care about the source of the money, only the amount and risks in getting it.
Only a loser like that would have drugs in their home especially when they have children. I hope they never get the kids back.
Shawn: Right. They usually don’t rob the store to get the alcohol though.
I live with the threat of home invasion because my next door neighbors deal marijuana from their house. People seeking to buy drugs from them often come to my house by mistake. I don’t answer the door anymore. Their mistaken customers are persistent and don’t like being ignored. I have found it unsafe to inform them they have the wrong house. People think there are drugs and cash at my house. I have little kids. I do not believe it is true that Marijuana harms no one. People that would target them believe that they would not call for police assistance. Making it legal would not make their house a less tempting target. Free drugs and cash for the taking. Because people seeking to buy drugs from them come to my house, I don’t believe it implausible that people seeking to steal from them would hit my house by mistake as well.
I am no fan of the police, but growing or dealing drugs in a residential neighborhood is not being a good neighbor.
Now those lucky children get to face the all too real possibility that they may be separated, abused, tortured, raped or killed in foster care.
YAY, the system!!
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I’m no fan of DCF or even cops, but come on. It is the parents who play with drugs. Not just as users, but dealers. What are we supposed to do? Let obviously dangerous people maintain control of their children? That is not an acceptable solution.
well COPS are obviously DANGEROUS people quick call dcf and report the abuse these children should be protected from the murderous gang behavior of the parent!
T only you stupid badge lickers consider marijuana to be “dope”in my opinion dope is a nickname for you gangsters with badges” dumb officers pound everyone”marijuana has been proven to help with several medical ailments, and being a medical professional i have no issue with people smoking marijuana for recreational or medicinal use what i do have a problem with is you stupid hack cops wasting hard earned tax dollars to cage people who grow,sell or use it, but then again you cops are not worth the air you fucking breath,so go suck dick of the rest of the bullies with badges if you have a problem and want to discuss this call me @(857)251-6830 and i will tell you again that you suck.
@John
Medical professional? That was one long sentence. While I oppose the drug war tactics, drugs are not victimless crimes.
maaaaybe we should wait and see on this one? it sounds like there may be a whole shoe store dropping in any time now.
WHY BEAT THIS GUY WITH A BAT? JUST SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD AND KILL HIM, SHOOTING JUSTIFIED.
FIRST, MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEGALIZED. IT HAS CAUSED MORE PROBLEMS THAN IT’S IS WORTH. I DON’T SMOKE THE SHIT OR ANYTHING, IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE SHIT. HAVING SAID THAT IF YOU GROW IT IN YOUR HOUSE AND LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT EVENTUALLY SOMEONE WILL TRY TO ROB YOU. HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE. AS FOR SELLING IT OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, STUPID IDEA. THIS GUY HAS NO RIGHT TO PUT HIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN DANGER FOR HIS OWN PROFIT. DO IT LEGALLY GET A STORE FRONT, GET THE PROPER BUSINESS PERMIT, TAX I.D. NUMBERS, PUT HIP AND COOL THINGS IN IT AND LET PEOPLE SMOKE THEIR BRAINS INTO STUPIDITY. SHIT THE STATE WOULD MAKE A FORTUNE IN TAX REVENUE ALONE. SOCIETY IS FUCKING STUPID………….
SECOND, THE KIDS SHOULD BE GIVEN TO FAMILY MEMBERS. THEY ARE IN DANGER AND THIS INCIDENT PROVES THAT. THIS ROBBER COULD HAVE KILLED THE WHOLE FAMILY OVER A STUPID FUCKING PLANT. I AM ALL FOR FREEDOM AS LONG AS YOU DON’T PUT ANYONE ELSE IN DANGER, AND THIS JOKER DID JUST THAT TO HIS OWN KIDS.
THIRD, WHAT DID THE COPS DO WRONG HERE? YOU SEE THIS IS WHERE THE COPBLOCKERS GO WAY OVERBOARD ON BLAMING COPS FOR DOING THEIR JOB. AT THIS POINT ALL THEY DID WAS THERE JOBS. THEY DIDN’T BEAT ANYONE’S ASS WITH CLUBS OR SHOOT ANYONE IN THE BACK OR EVEN STEPPED ON THE CONSTITUTION IN ANY WAY.
T. AND COMMON ARE USUALLY JACK ASSES BUT NOT IN THIS STORY THEY ARE NOT. MATTER OF FACT WHAT THEY HAVE SAID MAKES ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD. I’M WITH THEM ON THIS ONE. LOL, SOMETIMES THE COPBLOCKERS ARE WORSE THAN THE BOOTLICKERS. JOHN YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!!!!!.
PETE,
YOUR ARGUMENT IS RIDICULOUS. YOUR CREDIBILITY GETS A BEAT DOWN ON THIS ONE. HORRIBLE STORY FOR COPBLOCK.ORG WHICH I THOUGHT WAS ABOUT POLICE CORRUPTION NOT YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA FOR MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION.
@Shawn yeah medical professional physicians assistant,as long as people are not robbing,etc to support the drug use who the fuck cares. cops need to catch real criminals such as rapists and child molesters.
John….the problem is….that’s exactly what they do. You enjoy living next the the dope house. Eventually one of them will break into your house…thinking it was theirs. Again, back it being dopey. You’d be better calling the police and working to rid your neighborhood of that trash. You and the kids in the neighborhood will be much better off.
Another quality piece of “journalism” from Pete. Marijuana hurts no one. I call Bullshit. Pete, why don’t you ask the families of four people killed when a pot smoking jackass rammed his power boat into another boat and horribly killed four. The nice thing about this? The four killed were all out for a bachelor party boat ride on the night before the wedding.
Judgin by his previous posts, T would have said it was alright to shoot, handcuff, and then beat a person…maybe it is because a baseball bat was used instead of a polic baton that bothers him so much. I don’t believe that the people involved have their crap together as far as their grow op, or involving a felon in it–especially considering their are weapons involved as well, but as for the question of having the children taken away; I think it is a bit premature. Any home that has money and weapons are at risk at well. With that said, we should probably take away the children of the rural wealthy. It is almost guaranteed that they have guns and money!
Everyone is missing the obvious question here.
Here are the facts:
1. There was a home invasion.
2. “the suspected intruder was lying just inside the front door”
3. “marijuana plants of varying size growing in the basement.”
So, what gave the right for the officers to go to the basement?
I had a home invader once, and the guy went throughout the house.
The officer however at no point asked to search the house, nor did
he ever go past my living room.
Not because I have anything to hide, but because he had no reason to.
In this case, why did they have any reason to go anywhere beyond the area where the suspect was?
Joe: No, I’m not a violence advocate, never have been. That’s your side always preaching and calling for violence, not my side. Nice “try at the lie” though.
T, it was more a joke than anything. I don’t advocate violence unless it is a lot fun at the time (a joke again, relax). I only stated what I did because you seem to side with the authority figure at most times, and because of that, I made a joke. Please don’t confuse me as being with the “kill all pigs” crowd. All that I preach is that police should be held accountable, and in most cases, should probably just live and let live.
K
t,
I never said anything about the story was corrupt. I was speaking in more general terms. On a case by case basis, Ingham County is riddled with frivolous charges and officer protection. You may remember a story a while back, not sure if it was on this site, where the officers would draw a symbol on the back side of a ticket. That symbol was an indicator to the judge for the persons attitude during the stop. The judge would rule based on this symbol, and not the law.
Those are the kinds of things that Ingham County does.
As far as this story goes:
Was it a crime to have that much weed in the house? Yes.
Are these parents fit to raise children? Not in my opinion.
The shooting of the intruder is legal. The reason for the intruder entering the house was more than likely for the weed. Does that make the shooting unlawful? No. Take their kids? If circumstances warrant it, sure. And in this circumstance, it was needed.