The following was submitted via CopBlock.org’s ‘Submit‘ tab by JPCFourth.
Incident Date: Sunday, February 24, 2013
Heading home after dropping my son off at my mother’s house, I saw an Anaheim PD Officer driving casually with a Ride-Along on the passenger side. As usual I saw that the officer was not wearing a seatbelt. As petty as it may seem, this is a huge annoyance because as a private citizen, if I am caught without a seatbelt on, the minimum fine in California is $142.00. The police feel as if they are exempt from traffic law, even if there is no emergency. So, being the loudmouth that I am, I rolled down my window as I passed him and rather gently notified him that he was not wearing a seatbelt. He drove up ahead and started looking at me and my vehicle through his driver side mirror. Knowing that the courts had recently learned that vulgar language and signals are covered under the First Amendment, I gladly gave him the middle finger. Unfortunately for me, I was driving my girlfriend’s Mazda 3, which came with no placard to place a front license plate, and she had never installed one. The officer slowed down and pulled up behind me and signaled to pull over.
I pulled around on to a corner where we would all be safe, rather than on the side of the road during peak traffic hours, locked my doors, cracked the window a few inches and began recording with my cell phone. The officer walked up and immediately demanded for papers. As soon as he finished I asked for a badge number (#184) and the reason for the stop. I was a bit confused when he told me there was no front license plate, but soon realized that my girlfriend had never installed it (super face palm).
I supplied the officer with my driver’s license, but could not find the registration. At this point the officer had asked me to put my phone down (I assume to stop the recording), and to further roll my window down, which I gave immediate refusal and stated that it was because I did not trust him. This bothered him enough to begin ordering me out of the vehicle, which I also initially refused. The officer made an attempt to open my vehicle door, but it had been locked, (I learned this lesson from another officer in the past).
The officer then began stating that if I did not get out of the vehicle I would be going to jail, without stating what the charge would be.
At this point I requested a supervisor and the officer called for both backup and a supervisor. Since I was on my way to a date with my lady, I decided I’d rather go home than be jailed for a license plate violation. I stepped out of the car and immediately stated that I do not consent to searches. At this point the officer was aggressive and hostile, probably because I called him a piece of shit for ordering me out of my vehicle under threat of kidnap and caging.
I stepped out of my vehicle and tried to shut my door, and the officer became pretty agitated. I was frisked for weapons without my consent, and had my phone taken from me and placed on the top of the car. Luckily it recorded most of the audio, though some of it is not clear.
From here on out I refused to answer questions or consent to any searches. I told the officer that I was not afraid of him. Soon after, I found myself surrounded by 4 Anaheim PD officers; one of them left since he wasn’t needed. Shortly after, the supervisor showed up. I had requested his presence while I was being ordered out of my vehicle, but he showed up a bit too late. I refused any conversation with him which apparently pissed him off enough to start badgering me and even go so far as to threaten me with psychological evaluation, an attempt to intimidate me into answering more questions about my personal life, such as if I work, where I work, etc. The supervisor then began searching my vehicle for the registration, for which I did not give consent – but apparently no consent is needed when searching for certain documents. I should have locked my car. The officer soon found the registration and my license was checked for warrants – of course I had none. The officer gave me the license plate ticket and also admitted that the stop was retaliation for flipping him off. The officer told me to have a great day and I proudly responded with a nice loud, “Go Fuck Yourself.”
VIDEO LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXphA1tH5kE
Anaheim Police Department
200 S. Anaheim Blvd., Anaheim, CA 92805
(714) 765-4311
ever hear of the right to remain silent, probably should use it.
That leo should have arrested him for not having reg, not having a plate, obstruction of a leo’s lawful execution of a legal duty. That leo was really restrained. After the driver refused to get out of the car he has the right to place him under arrest. If you are going to be an activist, make sure you have the license, reg and ins ready to give to the leo and ck to make sure you are completely legal with the lights and plates. All he’s doing with the video is giving the prosecutor iron clad evidence of his guilt.
In FL, the bail for this would be about $1100 and they’d tow the car and put it in impound, that’s another 800 and the fines after conviction would be about 1500. Don’t think it’s worth it. Probably should walk.
The main issue here is the illegal pat down/criminal battery perpetrated by the cop, this is definitely a crime/tort/grounds for a lawsuit, excellent job recording/preserving the evidence.
I don’t beleive you. There is something that is not true in this story. It’s either 90% true and 10% bullshit, or 90% bullshit and 10% truth.
in NYC the cops stop u and act real nice before they handcuff you and frame you for possesion of crack cocaine
Why draw attention to yourself from a group who can kill you and then just say, “He reached for something, and fearing for my life, etc, etc”.
Cops not far from there openly attempted to murder 2 women delivering newspapers, who had made no threatening moves, and were shot at 60 times – FROM THE REAR.
If they face no repercussions for something like that other than some paid time off, you think not wearing their seat-belts will give them any pause?
Like any dangerous animal, best to just keep your distance whenever possible.
Silly hippie, police are exempt. Bet that didn’t go the way you thought it was gonna go huh?
Once again, you should have done some research before you opened your cock holster.
Enjoy coughing up the cash.
Ha ha ha.
Ummmm, Radical Dude… It’s been ruled already that police can pat your down for weapons during a contact…
@Backfire:
Your erroneous interpretation notwithstanding, there is no court ruling that gives police any sort of authority to do a pat down where there is no articulable suspicion the person is armed and dangerous if the cop is not doing the search “incident to arrest”. They don’t have a right to touch you just because they “contacted” you. Please learn your rights. Are you a cop?
US v Rochin (federal level)
Arizona v Johnson at the Supreme Court for the win and law of the land.
The police believe everyone is armed thus the pat down is legal.
And it only needs to be a ‘belief’ – no facts or information needs to be established before hand. The driver’s own behavior sealed his fate.
Should of broken out the window and removed you from the car.
So let’s get this straight…
EVERYTHING the officers and the supervisor did was proper.
EVERYTHING you did was either illegal or aggressive and rude.
And now your mad at the officer???
I looked back to my first sentence, it was spot on.
In that decision, Common, it says “reasonable belief” Not a wild hunch or an “I think but can’t support my thinking”. Not saying that wasnt here as I dont care about this one. In that case it was a driver with a blue bandanna and a police scanner and his background made it an easy decision for the officer to pat down even the passengers.
After reading this my impression is that you were stopped legally, got lippy with the cop as typical of a smart mouth punk and tried to play some game. If youa re stopped you need to provide the proper documentation such as; Drivers license, registration and proof of insurance. These are not optional nor is it multiple choice as to which ones you want to provide. If you had provided the documents you are required to hand over, I doubt you would have been ordered out of the car. The only time I was ever asked out, I was asked out of the car and asked a few questions by a Sac County Sheriff as I was speeding in a residential and after i answered in polite fashion I was sent home with only a drivers license check and nothing else. Do not get lippy, stand up for your rights always but if stopped do what you know is required of you with the documents and you would have avoided this experience as it seems you created most if not all of it!!
YF: Well reasoned.
Oh, as form the pat down…With the aggression you were openly showing…goodpat down.
This guy is a retard as well. Prime example of your mouth writing your own ticket. Respect is a two way street, give it and get it. Also in the majority of states it is not legal in and of its self to stop someone for not wearing a seat belt. Where I live it is a $10.00 fine with no court costs. If California allows you stop someone for not wearing a seat belt and then charges $142.00, then that is one f’ed up state. You don’t want to wear a seat belt fine. I am not going to bust my ass peeling you off the pavement either though.
As for case law. Terry vs Ohio is another prime example of justification to perform a “frisk”.
Once again Copblock is showing an officer acting professional, while being ridiculed.
The author is even admitting he didn’t know his girlfriends car was missing a front plate, then made an ass out of him self on video stating he had one. Officer goes up front and says nope not there.
Do I agree with the officer entering the car to get the registration? No. Anything he may have found illegal would have been fruit of the poisonous tree in my opinion.
How do you get threatened with a psychological evaluation? Once again poor headlining by copblock.
You can’t order me to get out of the vehicle!!
Wanna bet?
You’re lucky you didn’t go to jail. Jackass.
Glenn is a retard: He should be able to get the registration out of the car without any issues with anything else he finds. He’s required to present it and it should be in there. Now the question is….with access to DCI (either via his MDT or through dispatch) does he need the physical copy? Interesting question.
Overall, this guy did just about everything wrong tpand the officer did it right. He took bad “cop block”advice and found out the results.
@t
Gotta disagree. Just because they are supposed to have it doesn’t justify entering the vehicle without consent (or other exceptions). If state law mandates you produce a physical copy and the driver doesn’t, then cite them for it if you want. Run you record check through dispatch (which will give you that information anyway).
That’s the only issue I have with this video. Otherwise guy got what he deserved.
Much as it pains me, I have to agree that this guy went looking for trouble.
Glenn is a retard @ March 21, 2013 at 10:07 pm:
1 – it’s Califronia. Enough said. Horror stories are legion, choose your topic.
2 – Multiple places (NJ, for example) have made seat belts a “primary offense” IE, you can be pulled over and ticketed just for not wearing it. Favorite example of that was a cop claiming a friend wasn’t wearing his seatbelt (reason for stop) when the cop was going the opposite direction, on a bridge, at night. Black seat belt on black leather jacket. The officer turned around, went after him, pulled him over, cited for seat belt. (I forget the details, it’s been too long – IIRC he had it one when pulled over, the claim was he’d put it on when she(?) pulled him over – AND IT STUCK.)
@ March 22, 2013 at 9:21 am :
Agree that the lack of ready documentation shouldn’t be grounds for a search of the car, and anything “found” should be suspect.
Also agree the guy was an idiot for doing this.
Anyway – antagonizing a cop is NOT wise to do. Instigating the whole thing was NOT smart. But if you’re going to insist on doing it, HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION READY. And then don’t be a prima donna, talk to the supervisor, state why you started things, point out the retaliatory nature of the stop, and don’t run your mouth. Abuse of “authority” runs both ways.
@t:
quote:”With the aggression you were openly showing”
I don’t think there are any facts that you can use to demonstrate an allegation of “aggression”, but rather any such allegation is baseless. Would you agree that there are no facts to support any finding that he is openly showing aggression?
What facts do you see that support your opinion that he is “openly showing” “aggression”? If you can’t specify specific facts to support that than I take it you acquiesce that there, in fact, are none?
Everything this cop did was illegal, rude, inappropriate, insane, criminal, irrational, violent, rude and disgusting. Everything the guy in the car did was proper, legal, peaceful, non-violent, rational and moral.
Dude: While I haven’t been able to access the video (just can’t get it to open…no idea) I clearly read about several signs of open aggression in the posters story.
So cop right
Idiot wrong
Clear enough?
@t.:
What is clear is that you have no facts to back your opinion, which is what I thought, I just wanted to clarify that. It is also clear from the video that the cop/criminal is openly showing aggression while the driver/victim is not.
Radical Dude says:
March 23, 2013 at 3:31 am
Everything this cop did was illegal, rude, inappropriate, insane, criminal, irrational, violent, rude and disgusting. Everything the guy in the car did was proper, legal, peaceful, non-violent, rational and moral.
Hahaha set the pipe down sir.
@ underoath:
Is your comment relevant to the topic? If you think it is, then please explain, and if it’s not, then why would you even say such a thing?
@ Common Sense / March 21, 2013 at 2:20 pm
So – WHY are the police permitted to ASSUME everyone is armed, all the time?
In NYC or Chicago, for example, where effecgively NO ONE is allowed to have guns? Or is our cutlery the next target? Maybe the girl piggy is arresting has a knife in her cooch, and he should conduct a THOROUGH search, with a probing instrument?
If you find that ridiculous, what will you do when bastards like Cuomo and Feinstein succeed, and guns are banned? Will everyone still be “presumed armed”? If so, WHY?
Please explain why, in our copuntry, with PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE, WE are now considered the criminals? WE are presumed to be guilty of SOMETHING, you just need to catch us?
“Land of the free”, home of the enslaved.
Keep pushing….
Bloomberg, not Cuomo, in the latest BS gun shit.
As on other thread: More espresso. :-P
@Jean
Don’t take what Common wrote seriously, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about or is trolling or probably both.