Police Harassing a Private Investigator in Appleton, WI 12-21-2012

Published On April 25, 2013 | By CopBlock | Articles

I would first like to point out that I am a licensed P.I. in Wisconsin, Illinois & Michigan.

I worked a case in Appleton, WI, where earlier in the day I obtained nearly 2 hours of film of my claimant clearly committing insurance fraud. Near the end of my surveillance, officer Tooley was dispatched to my location because of a suspicious vehicle complaint. This is when the video begins.

After this incident…an anonymous complaint was filed against me with the WI Department of Regulation and Licensing from a Appleton, WI zip code stating how uncooperative I was with law enforcement and how my behavior was unbecoming of a private investigator. Funny how officer Tooley is there compromising the integrity of my investigation by blowing my cover after I ALREADY notified them of my whereabouts, vehicle description and the times I would be there, as a COURTESY to the Appleton PD. This is the appreciation I get for ACTUALLY CATCHING CRIMINALS! The response I gave to the DRL for this anonymous complaint must have satisfied the legal team and the complaint is now closed. What a joke to begin with!

I spoke to the shift LT. after this interaction on 12-21-2012 in which the supervisor said he drew his gun on subjects during suspicious vehicle calls. Good to know Appleton PD has supervisors that set good examples for subordinates.

I’m there actually providing a service. What service is provided to the Appleton residents by police harassment and intimidation…Officer Tooley?

Funny how nearly every interaction I have at work with the police is after I catch someone committing fraud. Protect & Serve? No! Harass & Intimidate!

 

 

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  • slappy

    Hilarious!!! This guy is a liar and a fraud. If he were truly a private dick, he would have cooperated with the police. My guess is he is claiming to be something he isn’t and is bilking someone out of money claiming to be a private dick. If you look at the comments under the video, everyone thinks this guy is a bullshitting jerk. I seriously doubt he called any dispatcher. No self respecting kind of private dick would have anything to do with an activist site especially cop block. This guy is a cop wannabe.

  • YankeeFan

    See guys, right on time. Name calling, combative language, dismissive in every way. Only slappy, forgot to mention activist and failed to use his usual Bullshit, dipshit multiple times to add on to the effect. This what Trolls look like and remember it so you can avoid it so they just go away!!

  • Mr. Bawkbagawk

    trolls, dont feed them.

  • slappy

    YankeeFan- Again you you astound everyone with your eloquence. What does your dip shit response have to do with the topic? Boo hoo Yankeefan is crying again. IF you believe that puke in the story then you are just as much a puke as the guy in the story is. Again, since I don’t agree with you you call me a troll. That makes you worthless and stupid.

  • Backfire

    This is the proper way to handle a police encounter…

  • Shawn

    @Slappy

    “Hilarious!!! This guy is a liar and a fraud. If he were truly a private dick, he would have cooperated with the police.”

    One, what makes you think a PI is any more a fan of cops, or hater of a cops than anyone else? They don’t have a right to their own view?

    Two, if he isn’t a PI, then he’d have been arrested. You need a license in most places to do that kind of thing. And claiming to be a security officer, PI, or cop usually gets you in a lot of hot water.

  • YankeeFan

    Remember guys trolls always respond first, name call, point fingers, use language designed to inflammatory all in an attempt to get people, trying to have reasonable discussion, all bent out of shape. Remember Shawn, Slappy is a troll so treat him as such!!

  • http://CopBlock.org Rob

    @ Slappy, As the moderator here you always have been able to and can continue to troll as long as you like. As you know you we have never edited or moderated any of your posts.

    Although, I must say you do remind me of our former biggest troll, just a lot calmer.

    AKA: Shane Smith. He actually went as far as making YouTube videos about us. He hated us and trolled our site much worse than you do.

    We actually dedicated a whole post to the troll. Actually he’s mentioned in a bunch of posts, the video in this one makes me picture you as you write your comments, http://www.copblock.org/7569/shane-smith-trolls-copblock-org/

    I was just wondering when your comments would become so insane that we could interview, write and dedicate a whole post about slappy?

  • YankeeFan

    Wow, being compared to a former troll. Not very complimentary to say the least. No maybe the adults can get back to the conversation now that the petulant child known as Slappy has been exposed and labeled as such. Thank you for marginalizing yourself, Slappy!LOL

  • 1605

    Am I free to go? YES! Great, great, great, great job! Fuck yes!

    Way to go, eh!

    Train your friends and family in the way of interrogation and freedom. Learn to answer questions with questions. Challenge these thugs over their authority and they will bow down.

    Go watch this video again. This thug in black urban camo tried his damnedest to get the window rolled down. He was personally insulted that the driver refused, said he would put the driver in the backseat of the cruiser (kidnap vehicle) and yet, he putzed out like a school yard bully after the last bell had rung. Probably went home and bloodied up his wife and children for it, though, he probably also took a couple years off the old liver with some stiff shots of whiskey to reconcile his abject failure to become a productive member of society, too.

    Wow again! Thank you for posting this. Copblocking at its finest.

  • certain

    Slappy for President!!

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    Troll or not, this video raises many questions. A couple of which are:

    1) If the poster is so upset about this, why did he wait four months to raise a stink?

    2) His YouTube page has several negative interactions with the police. Why is this happening if he’s such a model private investigator?

  • YankeeFan

    ThirtyOneBravo,

    Those are valid questions indeed.

  • 1605

    1) Irrelevant

    and

    2) Irrelevant

    See how that works?

  • Steve Pert

    Glad to see the complaint dropped against the P.I., insurance fraud is no joke in this country. In Florida we have to be insured for things people in other states think are insane. This man provides a valuable service we all need. I own a high rise window cleaning business that has to be insured for 2 million in liability just to compete. Some here, in Florida, say I’m getting off cheap.

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    I just showed this video to a close friend who’s in the industry. His reaction to the private investigator was “what a complete douche”. He’s also known in the Wisconsin private detective circles as a whiner and that nothing is ever his fault.

    Based on that information, which I find VERY reliable and from a rather respected source, the subject’s complaints are without any merit whatsoever.

  • Steve Pert

    ThirtyOneBravo

    Show us proof.

  • Steve Pert

    Wow, it seems Rob shut the troll up!

  • 1605

    Based on information which I find VERY reliable and from a rather respected source trolls are without any merit whatsoever.

  • Steve Pert

    Based on information which I find VERY reliable and from a rather respected source I have been informed I am the most spectacular specimen of a man on earth. Cause my wife says so….

  • 1605

    Steve Pert, I think you’re going to be a very welcome addition here!

  • Steve Pert

    1605, thank you!

  • http://www.policemisconduct.net Glenn

    So, slappy, may I ask how many private investigators you personally know?

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    The proof is on his youtube page and the complaints on his PD (private detective) record. If you’re not an armchair activist, you can do the same research I did and you can deduce it for yourself.

  • underoath

    Where is the harassment? The police officer got dispatched to a suspicious activity call and responded as such.

  • Steve Pert

    @ ThirtyOneBravo, Can you provide a link since no name is given in this video or the description? I would love to “deduce” it myself. I hear no whining anywhere. I see an American doing a valuable job. And an excellent job of fending off the police.

    You seem to have intimate knowledge not provided in this post. Are you officer tool trying to defame this man?

  • WIPI

    I waited this long to post or write about these issues until after legal proceedings were finished or complaints were closed.

    ThirtyOneBravo-
    Wouldn’t you consider any of my interactions with police negative since they were nearly all over suspicious vehicle complaints? Sometimes we have to get into an aggressive position to obtain film of fraud and this raises suspicions by residents. That’s why we give a courtesy call and let you know what we are doing there. I was there for a lawful purpose with the proper licenses and I even provided your department with a courtesy call of my location, vehicle description and time frame of surveillance. Just because something was posted long ago on your computer and you didn’t read it doesn’t excuse you from your mess. All we want is an apology and a sincere attempt to remedy this behavior. Then we wouldn’t have to publicly expose this behavior. It seems that the only way to get a real change from public employees is shaming them into changing their behavior.
    I’m not paid with taxpayer money so there isn’t an endless supply. Blowing someones cover costs companies money and lots of it. At $600-1k+/ day of surveillance that’s a lot of money for a 4 day case. Should we send you the bill?

  • d0nj3nko

    Hahaha… Nicely done Rob… What a complete little retard that troll is, named and shamed and threatened with exposure… Love it…
    It seems you just need to shine a big light on these cockroaches and they scurry! Anything else to say there troll?

    God bless all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/OregonCopblock chris p.

    not much harassment but def good tactics very on point.

  • Common Sense

    another non incident….

  • shawn

    I see a number of problems here. While the guy has no obligation to pander. to the police, every second that cop is there is getting more attention. That compromises the investigation. I’d want him gone, whatever it took.
    That the cops either lost or were too lazy to find the notification is hardly surprizing. Is anyone here the least bit surprised.
    From a couple statements by the cop, he had issues with PIs, starting with a belief that he was owed pandering to. Don’t complain about not knowing, if you refuse to read reports.

    By the way, i thought stakeouts were done if flashy red Ferarries?

  • underoath

    @steve pert

    Really? Demanding proof on copblock? The site that accepts outlandish stories with absolutely no proof and prints it as the gospel?

    I don’t know what’s worse…that copblock prints it or the regulars around here blindly follow it

  • t.

    YF: Come on. Did you watch this video? This officer was as professional as can be and “PI guy” was a total tool. He wanted respect but then didn’t want to have any for the officer.

  • t.

    sorry . i actually watched the wrong video. I was wrong again

  • Steve Pert

    @ underoath, the worst thing here is people like you! I found this site looking for like minded people. I could look for and find police blogs to argue with them but I don’t. I would rather learn something. Proof is in the pudding, as they say. In this case the P.I. proved his story, time after time. Don’t be such a hater just because we want our rights preserved. It makes you look ignorant.

  • underoath

    So…if you can’t attack the content, attack the author.

    Well played Steve, well played!

  • Steve Pert

    @ underoath, That makes no sense. Please clarify.

  • underoath

    All you did was attack me personally instead of addressing the content of my message.

    I’m all about preserving rights and police accountability, but I will also be the first to call bullshit on stories that are non issues…such as this one.

  • Joel

    slappy says:
    April 25, 2013 at 7:03 pm
    Hilarious!!! This guy is a liar and a fraud. If he were truly a private dick, he would have cooperated with the police. My guess is he is claiming to be something he isn’t and is bilking someone out of money claiming to be a private dick. If you look at the comments under the video, everyone thinks this guy is a bullshitting jerk. I seriously doubt he called any dispatcher. No self respecting kind of private dick would have anything to do with an activist site especially cop block. This guy is a cop wannabe.

    Ok, lets look at this, lying to a cop is a good way to wind up in jail, next he’s showing his face so they could find him real easy, plus they generated a report with his ID so he must be what he says he is. You might as well raise you right arm at a 45 and start singing Die Fahne hoch because you think anyone who asserts their rights is a terrorist, you just don’t have the guts to say it.

  • Steve Pert

    underoath says:
    April 26, 2013 at 9:16 am
    @steve pert

    Really? Demanding proof on copblock? The site that accepts outlandish stories with absolutely no proof and prints it as the gospel?

    I don’t know what’s worse…that copblock prints it or the regulars around here blindly follow it

    Enough said.

    Back to the issue at hand. The P.I. has proven, to me anyway, he is being harassed by the cops. Time after time it’s the same thing. I know from personal experience it only takes one time for a bad interaction with cops, IE: not kissing their butts, for things to get out of hand.

    To the people that want to downplay this, I say, wait till it happens to you and we’ll see who’s crying foul then.

    Thanks for the job you do WIPI.

    For the haters, wait until some criminal comes to your home or business and supposedly has an accident, then tries to sue the pants off you or your insurance company. THEN you will be falling all over yourself or begging this man, or someone like him, to go out and investigate the criminal. How you going to feel if you have to pay because the police are chasing that investigator off? Bet you’ll be at your wits end to.

    Better hope you don’t draw one of the sheep. “Yes Sir officer, I’ll be moving on, sorry to bother you Sir, although I did call your office and report I would be here. Now Sir, please turn around and drop your pants so I can give your butt one good kissing you won’t forget!”

    Freaking sheep.

  • YankeeFan

    T,

    I just said those are valid questions is all. If I think it is a reasonable question, I will say so. Otherwise this is a non story and I don’t give 2 cents wroth about it.

  • YankeeFan

    So to be honest, I do not know why you are responding to me as I have no issue with the cop making contact. If you are unclear about my position, simply ask and I will provide clarity.

  • YankeeFan

    T,

    I will break it down so you can’t make assumptions amigo!

    ThirtyOneBravo says:
    April 25, 2013 at 8:30 pm
    Troll or not, this video raises many questions. A couple of which are:

    1) If the poster is so upset about this, why did he wait four months to raise a stink?

    2) His YouTube page has several negative interactions with the police. Why is this happening if he’s such a model private investigator?

    and I said in response:

    YankeeFan says:
    April 25, 2013 at 8:32 pm
    ThirtyOneBravo,

    Those are valid questions indeed.

    To the first, if people have a serious issue they do not wait 4 months usually. Seems odd to wait 4 months then beef on someone or something if it is such a dire issue.

    To the second, it is valid to ask why does this so called private dick have so many negative interactions with police if he is a model private dick?

    Are we clear? I hope so because the cop wasn’t the issue, T!

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    I’m not the officer in this or any other video. I don’t even live near the Appleton area. However it was fun to watch everyone jump on the bandwagon assuming that I was the officer in question.

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    Whether WIPI made a “courtesy call” to the department’s call center or not, any and all complaints regarding a suspicious vehicle are investigated whether the private “investigator” likes it or not – particularly if it’s the first call regarding that complaint at that location.

    After the police’s first contact, any additional calls for service of that nature at that location can be logged and closed after confirming some information with the caller (make of vehicle, physical description of the person, etc…). The dispatched officer will most likely attach his current CAD number to the original original complaint and move on to the next open call.

    To me, this instance sounds a lot like Chicken Little with a smattering of whining because his “cover” was blown by the police doing their job.

  • WIPI

    So basically you’re saying we shouldn’t even bother to call in. Good to know!
    Yes, we’re all aware you aren’t officer tooley…
    We call you as a courtesy…..many departments around the COUNTRY call us back if a resident calls in a suspicious vehicle as a professional courtesy. I guess APD could care less about being professional or giving anyone a courtesy.
    You aren’t the only ones who have a job to do! There are others who work in the criminal justice field who AREN’T police officers. You know this, right?
    Try not being a bully for one week. You might start feeling better about yourself. Your citizens would enjoy it too. Maybe you could turn over a whole new leaf! : )

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    I’m not a bully by any means. I just am intolerant of bad attitude and whining. Frankly, saying your harassed by this officer (or any others in your videos) shows YOU as the uncooperative and unprofessional party. Really, you were harassing him. The officer in this case was just doing his job.

    Refusing to roll down your window was a clear sign that you really wanted to provoke that officer.

  • 1605

    All cops are bullies by definition.

    Are you sure you want to play the “just doing his job” card? Is history not already full of examples of that mindset leading to unfortunate endings?

    Stop being a cop, go be a productive member of a community instead of a goon.

    Ya fucking goon.

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    So, when the scales are tipping against you, you resort to name calling? OK. I know exactly who I’m dealing with. Of course Officer Tooley was just doing his job. He was professional, courteous and expedient.

  • WIPI

    I don’t roll down my window because I don’t trust cops. How is this unprofessional? I spoke in a respectful manner. If someone calls me a liar, I take offense to that. Don’t tell me you don’t do the same. If you watched my youtube channel you would have seen the threats posted on there. The window was cracked and we could talk just fine.
    You cops are pathetic! Scared of everyone and think everyone you encounter is a violent felon with a full auto arsenal of weapons in the trunk that’s out to get you. It’s your mindset that’s the problem. You’re all paranoid. Cops with your level of paranoia should not be allowed to carry any weapons, deadly or not! You’re more concerned about “officer safety” than upholding your oath to support and defend the Constitution. That’s in the job description of a police officer, is it not?
    If you guys would read the info logs from your dispatchers, you could simply TALK to the citizen who called in the complaint instead of wasting everyone’s time and money.
    You see, where most people work, we try to save money where we can…this is a lesson government employees have yet to learn.
    LEARN IT!

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    A Law Enforcement Officer’s oath of office differs from agency to agency but they all have some things in common, they bind the officer to protect and serve the community, to hold him/her self – and citizens accountable for their actions, to conduct him/her self professionally and courteously and to uphold the law of the community and the constitutions of his/her state and country.

    Officer Tooley did EVERYTHING he was sworn to do. He wasn’t unprofessional, nor did he abuse his office to coerce you into doing something you didn’t want to.

    I’m not defending the actions of every officer out there, there are bad apples that tarnish the good reputation of our police force. Just as there are whiny, petulant, mewling “private investigators” out there. The actions of one (or a few) do not define the actions of the whole.

  • Wow

    Give attitude, get attitude. Keep on fighting the good fight there PI Joe. (Get it? PI Joe).

    I crack myself up.

  • Common Sense

    ha ha ha +5 points

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    WIPI says:
    April 25, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    I waited this long to post or write about these issues until after legal proceedings were finished or complaints were closed.

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    I call shenanigans on that bold-faced lie of a statement. Your slander of this officer in your own YouTube comments go back to January.

    Your credibility is shot to hell.

  • Wow

    @thirtyonebravo

    This type of behavior is typical for Cubs fans.

  • Wow

    *his

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    @Wow

    WIPI’s only been licensed in Wisconsin since 23DEC2008. And unfortunately, Wisconsin doesn’t require any prior experience or particular education – or continuing education to maintain his credentials so he’s probably still learning how to do his job well. Thank God he’s not allowed to carry a firearm while working or we’d all be in trouble.

    Because you know how those Cubs fans are.

  • WIPI

    You are soooo right! I shouldn’t be upset about someone taking food off my table, money for college funds, my retirement, mortgage, etc. You are sooo right, I have no basis to be upset about cops hindering my investigations. It’s not like this was the first time or anything…probably the 50th time at least in the last 5 years. I just started recording police interactions in 2012 because I’ve found most police to be habitual and pathological liars!
    Let me ask you this… why should police be concerned when a citizen “hinders” their investigations by filming them “too close” or they refuse to be bullied? LIKE NOT ROLLING A FREAKIN WINDOWN DOWN. Cops hinder us all the time and we are suppose to man up and take it. So what’s your excuse, did I hurt your feelings for not kissing your butt?
    It’s funny how the police are the biggest whiners about how tough everything is for them and how “dangerous” their job is, but when someone else voices a complaint about them, they are the first to say shut up, quit your whining, our job is so difficult so we need to be cut more slack than everyone else. They only thing you guys ever cut anyone outside of law enforcement are tickets!
    Like I always say, give you morons enough rope and you’ll always manage to do the right thing with it.

  • WIPI

    31, how long have you worked for APD? What’s your resume? Do you even have a HS diploma? Are the douche that filed the anonymous complaint? Name and address refused because of “fear of retaliation” What a pussy!

    Our company actually requires more education than any pd in the state if you bothered to check. I have a BA and a BS. I’m also working on my JD.
    What do you have besides a massive stick somewhere?

  • WIPI

    Oh, and posting a video and writing an article about this are two different things. I would have wrote more than comment responses on youtube, but some tool decided to write a baseless complaint that had to be responded to before the article could be written. It would be nice if the rest of us could waste cops time and money by filing complaints, but we all know they go nowhere. You see, PIs have accountability because we are investigated by a separate agency for complaints, while you cops can “investigate” yourselves, even if a complaint is filed against the person who investigates their own complaint. ie-Marathon County SD.

  • t.

    The end point is, you want to be respected but act like a douchebag. If you would have cooperated just that little bit the officer would have been gone pretty quickly. Personally, the don’t open the window thing just makes me get you the whole way out of the car. That is one of the dumber tactics that you guys use.

  • Wow

    Cubs fan. Enough said.

    Aside from being a cop wanna be.

  • Aaron

    @Wow, t, CS, and 31B: WIPI is kicking your ass, and you’re grasping at straws. Word of advice: stop, while you look only -this- pathetic.

  • Wow

    @ Aaron,

    Yes, I am getting my ass kicked for stating the obvious. Cubs haven’t Won a World Series in over 100 years. Please tell me again how I’m getting my ass kicked. Go Cards!

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    Ya see that 2.5? (That’s you WIFI…)

    Act like a grown up and you have no problem.

    Now… Lets move on to the rest of your mewling and bitching, shall we?

    For the sake of brevity, I’ll leave your personally identifying information out of this conversation (I have a shitload of Google juice and and would rather leave it out of this mess…)

    You, Mr. C, are a piece of shit. You make noise for actions that are of your own cause. Instead of cooperating with police who are investigating a VALID complaint (whether implicitly against you or because you look like some other donut eating lard ass in a car which has been parked for several hours at a crack) you chose to fuck with the officer by refusing to roll your window down (like a mewling petulant whiner) You also hindered the officer’s (rather quick) investigation by being as jerk when he approached you.

    Had you rolled down your window (you know how to do it, McDonald’s says it happens often) and quickly stated your business **IN A PARKED, CAR ON A PUBLIC ROADWAY** all would have been cleared in moments.

    Your huffing and puffing in this, and all videos were noted as consuming oxygen for those who need it. Moving on.

    As I said I don’t work for the Appleton Police Department. I don’t even live anywhere near the area – THINK BIGGER THAN YOU. My resume isn’t a matter of public importance. Frankly, it’s none of your (or any one else’s)business.

    As for “citizens hindering”, etc (holy hell, I have diarrhea now)… That’s not your concern. You’re a LICENSED “PROFESSIONAL” who’s held to particular standards if conduct. Ofc. Toole did NOTHING to you but what he was asked to do. You, on the other hand, Mr. C., did everything you could (without escalating the situation) to hinder his investigation. I wonder how one’s mentor (assuming you were taught by someone with morals) would react. I’m sure you’d have a black eye by now – if such a person existed. So in words you can understand… whah whah heah. The baby cries.

    I’m tired. You lied and that’s really then end of it. I wonder how Ms. DeBoer would feel that one of her agents is standing one his tippy toes with a massively crumbling foundation beneath his feet.

    – 31

  • Steve Pert

    ThirtyOneBravo says:
    April 28, 2013 at 3:14 am

    “I said I don’t work for the Appleton Police Department. I don’t even live anywhere near the area – THINK BIGGER THAN YOU. My resume isn’t a matter of public importance. Frankly, it’s none of your (or any one else’s)business.”

    Now that’s some scary stuff there. That statement alone is exactly the mentality which turns average Joe’s IE: used to be me, into concerned citizens, IE: activist.

    You should have to prove your qualified to do your job. I can a least say this for the cops in my area, Ocala Florida, note I’m not scared to say where I am, they are ALL required to have some kind of college education. It doesn’t have to pertain to law enforcement, just has to show they are capable of higher learning.

    When cops fall back to name calling on here it shows your not capable of maintaining an intelligent conversation. You fall back to the same thing we are accustomed to seeing on the streets, a bully that doesn’t have to prove anything. A bully that can write tickets, harass or arrest people at will.

    Thank you for showing your colors officer. BLUE

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    Mr. Pert,

    Lets get a few things straight. First, in my profession, I must have a graduate degree AND maintain a certain amount of hours of continuing education to even be *CONSIDERED* for my annual professional licenses. THEN I have to sit in front of a state board to their consideration, and then again at a local level (e.g. a Common Counsel or County Board depending on the area in which I practice) I don’t just send $115 to the DSPS every July and call myself a Private Detective.

    To be a police officer just about anywhere, not just Ocala, FL, the candidate needs least 60 credit hours of college to be considered for a law enforcement job. I believe that’s required by the DOJ. I’ll research that to be sure and if I’m incorrect, I’ll post that here.

    Secondly, where I live is totally irrelevant to this conversation.

    Thirdly, abut name calling… People in glass houses, Sir. Bah Bah.

  • roadrunner

    The so called private investigator clearly displayed a noncooperative attitude toward the police officer.

    Just because a person calls the PD doesn’t mean they are who they claim to be. i.e….Bank robber calls PD and says, “I’m a private investigator working on a case across the street from the bank.” to stop the police from acting upon a call for service from a concerned citizen about a suspicious car and person in his neighborhood.

    Get real, Private investigators and the police are on the same side of the law, and should respect each other. That does not mean the private investigator is exempt from being investigated.

    As for saying the police are paranoid, you need to get a grip…The police deal with people they do not know. They do not know who is a law abiding citizen nor who might be a threat, and must be prepared to react to a threat if and when it happens, without trying to offend those that just don’t understand.

    I’m sure you like the idea of being able to go home after you’re day’s work, so do the cops…

    To cooperate with the police doesn’t mean you will always get your way, but cooperation, if you have done nothing wrong, will get you on your way much quicker. The police have to figure out that you’ve done nothing wrong, then you can go about your business.

    Just common sense.

  • t.

    Anon: Not.

  • http://www.spectruminvestigations.com Greg Borders

    You call that harassment? That officer was doing his job and was very professional in his interaction even though the PI was trying really hard to “push his buttons”. In our post 9-11 world, people are more aware of their surroundings and are letting the police know when they see things out of place so they can check it out. Was there a breakdown in communication between dispatch and the officer as far as notification goes? Maybe so. But the PI in this tape was acting like an absolute ass and had no justification from the officer to do so. This kind of behavior makes it harder on the rest of the PI’s doing their investigations and who are trying to maintain a good relationship with local law enforcement.

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    Mr. Pert,

    As promised, I did some additional research regarding the educational qualifications needed to become a police officer. Educational prerequisites are determined on a state by state basis. Wisconsin, for instance, requires at least 60 credit hours from a recognized university or community college for admission to the Law Enforcement academies around the state. Florida (and thus, the city of Ocala), on the other hand only requires a high school diploma or GED. Ocala’s own human resources portal requires an applicant for a sworn law enforcement officers position to have a HS diploma or a GED.

    Both states (and every other state in the country) require basic LEO training at an accredited academy which are usually held at the community college level.

  • WIPI

    I choose not to roll down the window for my own safety, if cops have a problem with that, deal with it! I DONT TRUST THEM. The cop being a dick was predicated entirely on him flipping out because I didn’t roll down my window down for him. He’s the only one who has flipped out over an non issue like this. The officer is the one who made this worse than it had to be. If he would have done his homework and read the memo, none of this would have happened. This dick was the final straw the broke the camel’s back. I’ve dealt with cops like this for too long, costing me and my company lots of money by pissing all over investigations. Cops act like they are the only ones who work in the CJ field, or anyone else that does, doesn’t mean shit to them.
    It’s sad that you’re such a coward and don’t want anyone to know who you are for “fear of retaliation”. It must drive you crazy we have a right to face our accusers in this country. Coward!

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    I fail to see even the perception of flipping out by the officer. There were no unreasonable threats by the officer, there was no hopping angry cursing. All we saw was a petulant, mewling liar who was afraid (lol) of the police.

    From what I can tell, you seem to have a camera mount trained in the same general angle in your vehicle and judging on your encounter with the off duty Marathon County deputy, you keep one handy. This tells me, and any reasonable person watching, that you constantly expect this type “harassment” to occur.

    So keep filming officers who are doing their job, we need the lulz.

  • http://www.facebook.com/OregonCopblock chris p.

    yah i dont see the cop flippin out playah….. but def good tactics you used nice.

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  • Wow

    “Cops act like they are the only ones who work in the CJ field, or anyone else that does, doesn’t mean shit to them.”

    Ah, so PI Joe is mad because he does not get extended “professional courtesy”. Got it.

    A little hypocritical calling someone a coward when you hide in the bushes for a living with a video camera.

  • WIPI

    Pulling me out and detaining me after I identified myself in the morning…kidnapping? I provided more information to them than you radio back during a traffic stop! As I’ve seen from your posts and complaint, I know you’ve run ALL my personal information, but declined to provide yours, and the APD should have run this info and identified all this information the morning I called in if they really wanted to due a thorough job for their citizen’s complaint. I respect the authority law enforcement officers have, that is why I am cautious at the same time. Should they choose to overstep their authority, my rights have to be violated for an officer’s bad judgement and not reading his intelligence reports. He had nearly a full shift before any of this happened. He started at 7am, interaction wasn’t until nearly 3pm. Come on!
    Our job is a little more important, catching a criminal, than your ego.

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    @Wow

    We all know that there’s far, far more professions in the criminal justice field. But here’s the thing… I’m sure that WIPI feels that private detectives are morally above the police. This is very evident by his attitude in all his interactions with any law enforcement officer.

    One would think he’d be more cooperative with and empathetic of the men and women who put their lives out there after all, he claims to have a bachelors in criminology.

    When it comes to a GOOD PI Joe, they don’t act cowardly. They’re right there with their cameras and they do their job with integrity. This brings me back to the seemingly drunken three-part rant from the 27APRIL2013: I think it’s hysterical he still thinks I’m the officer who’s the subject of this posting or that I even work for the Appleton Police Department.

    I did some cursory check of what WIPIs employer’s educational requirements are for employment with them, I found none on their web site. I did find this interesting tidbit from their own “Expert Surveillance Advice” section…

    “…Parking on a rural road or sitting in the front seat of a car is taboo. Nothing good will come from this approach and you will most definitely have the local residents/ authorities converging on you and thus alerting the entire area of your presence.”

    As suspected, WIPI’s problems are his own as he broke an apparent taboo of his industry. His rump was where? That’s right, the front seat of his mini van.

    I’m growing tired of poking holes in WIPIs arguments and defenses.

    – 31

  • ThirtyOneBravo

    @WIPI

    Had this been a valid complaint of an officer who overstepped his authority, I’d be right behind you and probably even helping you make the situation better.

    I owe you no information regarding who I am or what I do. I’m not the guy who’s throwing baseless complains around as a monkey throws his own feces. I’m just a guy who calls bullshit when he sees it.

    You made it ALL too easy to figure out who you are and to be honest, I could have dropped dox on you right here, in this forum, and be perfectly within my rights to do so.

  • Maty

    Bad URL…