Border Patrol Agents with Personal Agendas….

Published On May 25, 2013 | By Roadblock Revelations | Articles

One of the advantages of video recording all your compelled encounters with Border Patrol agents at internal suspicionless checkpoints no where near the border they’re supposed to be patrolling is the history the videos reveal & the searchable library they create. Since I’ve had to go through such checkpoints on a regular basis for well over five years now, I have quite an extensive video library of these encounters to draw from.

Take for instance the image of Border Patrol Agent J. Grayson appearing half way through the video included above (click on link to see an actual image of Grayson). An image I captured on March 6, 2010 while I was being seized absent individualized suspicion by his cohorts in crime, Agent’s Taylor & Best. During this suspicionless seizure where Agent Taylor attempted to compel me to go to secondary for failing to roll down my window on demand, I was branded a “troublemaker” by Agent Best for daring to exercise the very rights these agents have a duty to acknowledge and protect.

At the time of this encounter over three years ago, I didn’t give Agent Grayson much attention since most of it was on Agent Taylor who was attempting to extend the initial seizure absent my consent or probable cause and Agent Best who was making his contempt for the rights enumerated within the Bill of Rights clear. Indeed, given the fact that Agent Grayson did little in the video to aggravate or escalate the adversarial situation created by his supervisor and co-worker, I gave him relatively high marks in comparison to the other two.

Since that time however, I’ve had several additional (compelled) interactions with Agent Grayson at this same checkpoint. Unfortunately, none of the subsequent encounters have illuminated him in a light more flattering then that shared by many of his predecessors. Indeed, an encounter from March 29, 2013 (soon to be posted) revealed that Agent Grayson is quite willing to openly use his position of authority to pursue personal agendas under color of law against individuals he seizes at these checkpoints knowing full well he’s being video recorded while doing so.

Thanks to Agent Grayson’s recent actions however, he’s not only given me a lot to talk about over the next several months, he’s also given me several diverse forums in which to do so. Much of this will be reminiscent of an encounter I had at this checkpoint back in December of 2008 but involves the Pima County Sheriff’s Dept. this time around instead of the Tohono O’odham Police Dept. The traffic citation that has resulted from this most recent encounter has even less of a legal foundation than the one from 2008 and should suffer a similar fate. There will also be the added bonus of demonstrating a much stronger formal arrangement between the Border Patrol and local law enforcement for the purposes of providing this checkpoint with a general law enforcement function then I’ve been able to show in the past.

In the meantime, feel free to watch the video I’ve embedded in this article which includes Agent Grayson in one of the earlier encounters I’ve identified him in. Given the example that’s been set by many of his predecessors at this checkpoint, including field supervisors who should definitely know better by now, his most recent actions ultimately come as no surprise. They do however provide me with a new opportunity to shed additional light on what’s wrong with empowering government agents to arbitrarily stop, seize, detain, interrogate and seek to search people inside the country absent suspicion:

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  • http://yahoo Alvin

    Now, if only the Border Patrol would be able to recognize the “troublemakers” invading our country to the tune of 100,000 persons a month. Personally, I like the idea of using the freedom loving Americans who’ve formed into militia groups to assist in the patroling of the borders like they have done in Arizona. Volunteerism at it’s best, in my opinion.

  • t.

    What “personal agenda”? I guess I miss your idea of “personal”

  • http://copblocker workingman

    boy the cop with the dog sure tried to make the dog hit how many times did he run him around the car I was just waiting for him/dog to finally just sit

  • slappy

    More fucking bullshit from a piece of shit activist. Arizona has stepped up these checkpoints to stop illegals from coming in as well as help stop illegal drugs. I guess fuckhead would rather lose his job or watch his children get stoned then just being glad they check for that stuff. Maybe that dumb fucker should move to mexico and then he won’t have to worry about checkpoints. Stupid fucker.

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    Hey slappy

    What’s up with the foul mouth? Did you never learn how to express yourself without resorting to vulgarities or is that just how authoritarian punks like yourself communicate?

    Regardless, you should check your facts. You see Arizona has nothing to do with these checkpoints. They are in fact checkpoints operated by the federal Department of Homeland Security. The fact that a local peace officer was foolish enough to involve himself in it however makes it clear the checkpoint is being conducted illegally.

    Another fact you seem unaware of is that drug checkpoints are in fact illegal so if one of the purposes of this checkpoint is drug interdiction then, well you can guess the rest.

    Regardless, I do appreciate your comment. What better way to demonstrate the average mentality of people who have no problem with gov’t agents stopping, seizing, detaining, interrogating and seeking to search others absent suspicion inside the country then for comments from ignorant foul-mouthed authoritarian punks like yourself.

  • Amigajoe

    *Checkpoint USA*

    -Maybe you’re new to this forum, but surely any significant time spent on the ‘net should make obvious trolling recognizable?

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    Yep, I recognized ‘slappy’ for what he was with the first few words in his comment. Doesn’t mean one shouldn’t put such punks in their proper place & correct false information they present when the opportunity presents itself….

  • t.

    Check: How is a local officer being in a yeah invved with a federal agency “illegal?” We work together all the time. Even just on task forces. It’s very common. A “set” checkpoint like this….one that’s always there….probably won’t classify as a “drug” checkpoint.

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    “What “personal agenda”? I guess I miss your idea of “personal””

    I guess you also missed the point that this post is a precursor to one which will include video of Agent Grayson abusing his authority by illegally detaining me in order to pursue his personal agenda. In other words, this post serves to provide a little background information and context for posts to follow.

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    “Check: How is a local officer being in a yeah invved with a federal agency “illegal?” We work together all the time. Even just on task forces. It’s very common. A “set” checkpoint like this….one that’s always there….probably won’t classify as a “drug” checkpoint.”

    The thing about checkpoints is that in order for them to be considered legal, they have to be very limited in scope, short in duration and minimally intrusive for the lawful scope they serve.

    The checkpoint depicted in my video is supposed to be limited in scope to brief immigration queries and operated by federal Border Patrol agents. Local and state police have no authority or jurisdiction to enforce federal immigration laws under most circumstances and if they participate in a federal immigration checkpoint then they are expanding its scope and its intrusiveness accordingly.

    A few SCOTUS quotes to help clarify:

    “…We have held that checkpoint searches are constitutional only if justified by consent or probable cause to search….And our holding today is limited to the type of stops described in this opinion. -’[A]ny further detention…must be based on consent or probable cause. United States v. Brignoni-Ponce, supra, at 882. None of the defendants in these cases argues that the stopping officers exceeded these limitations.” – U.S. v Martinez-Fuerte

    “The reasonableness of checkpoint stops, however, turns on factors such as the location and method of operation of the checkpoint, factors that are not susceptible to the distortion of hindsight, and therefore will be open to post-stop review notwithstanding [428 U.S. 543, 566] the absence of a warrant.” – U.S. v Martinez-Fuerte

    “We have also upheld brief, suspicionless seizures of motorists at a fixed Border Patrol checkpoint designed to intercept illegal aliens, Martinez-Fuerte, supra, and at a sobriety checkpoint aimed at removing drunk drivers from the road, Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Sitz…In none of these cases, however, did we indicate approval of a checkpoint program whose primary purpose was to detect evidence of ordinary criminal wrongdoing.” – City of Indianapolis v Edmond

  • Common Sense

    Entry into the US is illegal.

    Inland checkpoints are completely legal.

    Arizone has a state statute prohibiting illegal entry into the state, thus a state statute prohibing that conduct; so both a federal and state law exists. Avoiding or evading a checkpoint is a felony.

    Even the ALCU agrees.

    http://www.acluaz.org/sites/default/files/documents/Checkpoints%20One-Pager.pdf

    I think it was that made an excellent point. The 4th prohibits ‘unreasonable’ searches, not ‘all’ searches. Answering 2-3 questions is not ‘unreasonable’ – I suggest an activist get themselves arrested and let the USSC decided.

    If your curious, read INA:ACT 287.

  • Common Sense

    US v Martinez-Fuerte, you really need to list the major points.

    1. The Border Patrol’s routine stopping of a vehicle at a permanent checkpoint located on a major highway away from the Mexican border for brief questioning of the vehicle’s occupants is consistent with the Fourth Amendment, and the stops and questioning may be made at reasonably located checkpoints in the absence of any individualized suspicion that the particular vehicle contains illegal aliens. Pp. 428 U. S. 556-564.

    (a) To require that such stops always be based on reasonable suspicion would be impractical because the flow of traffic tends to be too heavy to allow the particularized study of a given car necessary to identify it as a possible carrier of illegal aliens. Such a requirement also would largely eliminate any deterrent to the conduct of well disguised smuggling operations, even though smugglers are known to use these highways regularly. Pp. 428 U. S. 556-557.

    (b) While the need to make routine checkpoint stops is great, the consequent intrusion on Fourth Amendment interests is quite limited, the interference with legitimate traffic being minimal and checkpoint operations involving less discretionary enforcement activity than roving patrol stops. Pp. 428 U. S. 557-560.

    (c) Under the circumstances of these checkpoint stops, which do not involve searches, the Government or public interest in making such stops outweighs the constitutionally protected interest of the private citizen. Pp. 428 U. S. 560-562.

    (d) With respect to the checkpoint involved in No 74-1560, it is constitutional to refer motorists selectively to a secondary inspection area for limited inquiry on the basis of criteria that would not sustain a roving patrol stop, since the intrusion is sufficiently minimal that no particularized reason need exist to justify it. Pp. 428 U. S. 563-564.

    2. Operation of a fixed checkpoint need not be authorized in advance by a judicial warrant. Camara v. Municipal Court, 387

    Page 428 U. S. 544

    U.S. 523, distinguished. The visible manifestations of the field officers’ authority at a checkpoint provide assurances to motorists that the officers are acting lawfully. Moreover, the purpose of a warrant in preventing hindsight from coloring the evaluation of the reasonableness of a search or seizure is inapplicable here, since the reasonableness of checkpoint stops turns on factors such as the checkpoint’s location and method of operation. These factors are not susceptible of the distortion of hindsight, and will be open to post-stop review notwithstanding the absence of a warrant. Nor is the purpose of a warrant in substituting a magistrate’s judgment for that of the searching or seizing officer applicable, since the need for this is reduced when the decision to “seize” is not entirely in the hands of the field officer and deference is to be given to the administrative decisions of higher ranking officials in selecting the checkpoint locations. Pp. 428 U. S. 564-566.

    No. 74-1560, 514 F.2d 308, reversed and remanded; No. 75-5387, affirmed.

  • slappy

    Checkpoint USA What kind of fucking moron are you? These check points are not illegal dumb fuck. The supreme court has ruled as such. You are just another cunt activist who thinks they know everything and you don’t. This video is just pure fucking shit like you. I’m willing to bet you posted this piece of shit. How are you going to put me in my place asshole? Are you going to flog me with your fucking bullshit and your party side psychology? Grow up you cunt. You are as worthless as this video is. All of your paranoid conspiracy theories have no validity behind them. These chekc points are legal dumbfuck.

  • steve

    They use these stops for what i call stop checks . They stop people to find anything they can, Guns, alcohol, drugs and not drugs coming across the border. Along with warrants of any kind or stolen vehicles, just about anything they can find but not illegals. Its citizen harrasment. they used to just look in your car for mexicans but there is no money in that.

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    “I think it was that made an excellent point. The 4th prohibits ‘unreasonable’ searches, not ‘all’ searches. Answering 2-3 questions is not ‘unreasonable’ – I suggest an activist get themselves arrested and let the USSC decided. If your curious, read INA:ACT 287.”

    If you don’t think I’m well acquainted with the INA and every SCOTUS case dealing with checkpoints then you’d be sorely mistaken.

    If you want to know what the USSC thinks about the INA, I’ll give you a clue:

    “Our prior cases have limited significantly the reach of this congressional authorization, requiring probable cause for any vehicle search in the interior and reasonable suspicion for inquiry stops by roving patrols. Our holding today, approving routine stops for brief questioning is confined to permanent checkpoints. We understand, of course, that neither longstanding congressional authorization nor widely prevailing practice justifies a constitutional violation”. – U.S. V Martinez-Fuerte

    If you think agents have anymore authority then to briefly seize people absent suspicion to ASK a few questions in the absence of consent or probable cause at an inland checkpoint, then you’d be even more mistaken. Even the ACLU recognizes that fact. You can reference my website and blog to see an interview with an ACLU attorney who makes it perfectly clear agents can ask, they just can’t compel.

    Regarding getting arrested at a checkpoint, I’ve been there & done that. Please see the picture of the large settlement check on my blog the police department wrote to me after I defeated their bogus charges in court and sued them under 42 USC 1983.

    Regarding getting cited at checkpoints, I’ve been there & done that as well. In those cases I don’t even need an attorney to get the citations dismissed. Pro-se is more than sufficient.

    Anymore comments you’d like to make?

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    “US v Martinez-Fuerte, you really need to list the major points.”

    I see you’re not very good at actually understanding court cases. The major points to which you refer have no meaning without proper context. In the case of Martinez-Fuerte, here’s the proper context to which you appear to be ignorant:

    “It is agreed that checkpoint stops are ‘seizures’ within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment.”

    “The principal protection of Fourth Amendment rights at checkpoints lies in appropriate limitations on the scope of the stop.”

    “Our prior cases have limited significantly the reach of this congressional authorization, requiring probable cause for any vehicle search in the interior and reasonable suspicion for inquiry stops by roving patrols. Our holding today, approving routine stops for brief questioning is confined to permanent checkpoints. We understand, of course, that neither longstanding congressional authorization nor widely prevailing practice justifies a constitutional violation”

    “The defendants arrested at the San Clemente checkpoint suggest that its operation involves a significant extra element of intrusiveness in that only a small percentage of cars are referred to the secondary inspection area, thereby “stigmatizing” those diverted and reducing the assurances provided by equal treatment of all motorists. We think defendants overstate the consequences. Referrals are made for the sole purpose of conducting a routine and limited inquiry into residence status that cannot feasibly be made of every motorist where the traffic is heavy.”

    “…We have held that checkpoint searches are constitutional only if justified by consent or probable cause to search….And our holding today is limited to the type of stops described in this opinion. -’[A]ny further detention…must be based on consent or probable cause. United States v. Brignoni-Ponce, supra, at 882. None of the defendants in these cases argues that the stopping officers exceeded these limitations.”

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    You really are quite the foul-mouthed ignorant authoritarian punk slappy. Not that I’m surprised. Most punks like you never quite mastered that reading comprehension thing. Hell, you can’t even tell the difference between the type of checkpoint the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld as legal with the type they have explicitly struck down as illegal, nor the conditions that must be met in order for a checkpoint to be considered legal.

    Like I said before, I do appreciate comments from punks like you. They really help folks understand the type of person and personality that’s in favor of empowering gov’t agents to randomly search and seize others absent suspicion. After all, it takes a really paranoid conspiracy theorist to think that gov’t needs to be able to treat everyone like a criminal and to make people prove their innocence on demand in order to protect society.

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    “They use these stops for what i call stop checks . They stop people to find anything they can, Guns, alcohol, drugs and not drugs coming across the border. Along with warrants of any kind or stolen vehicles, just about anything they can find but not illegals. Its citizen harrasment. they used to just look in your car for mexicans but there is no money in that.”

    FYI – the types of checkpoints depicted in my videos are not border checkpoints. They’re inland checkpoints where the majority of traffic is domestic in nature.

  • Bob

    Looks to me like you are just trolling. It would be pretty troubling if the weren’t also looking for guns,drugs, and people with warrants. Just because they are called border patrol does t mean their jobs start and end there.

  • t.

    Check: Did you even read what you quoted? I do t think you did.

  • slappy

    Checkpoint USA – You are a cunt and a liar. Your bullshit video does nothing except show what a fuck up you are. Even the officer said you are a trouble maker and just waived you through. Just think, the next time you would need the police they will just blow you off because you are a trouble maker fagot. The checkpoints are legal fuckhead. It’s you who bitches whines and moans about it. Don’t drive near the check points fagot and then you won’t have to worry about being labled as a cunt all the time.

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    “Check: Did you even read what you quoted? I do t think you did.”

    Why don’t you tell me where you think the disconnect is between my position and the quotes I provided and I’ll attempt to clarify my position better.

  • steve

    Checkpoint USA , Thank you , you have given what should be expected on this site excellent information to share with citations of law and cases. I wish there were more like you , thanks for your opinion.

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    “Looks to me like you are just trolling. It would be pretty troubling if the weren’t also looking for guns,drugs, and people with warrants. Just because they are called border patrol does t mean their jobs start and end there.”

    Well of course it looks like I’m trolling to you. Most people who don’t value individual rights consider anyone who does and is willing to exercise them as trolls.

    Regardless, using an inland checkpoint to look for guns, drugs & people with warrants is illegal. See City of Indianapolis V Edmond if you need to educate yourself.

    BTW, why would you advocate for gov’t agents to violate the law anyway?

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    Thanks steve. I appreciate the positive feedback. If you’re interested in more information on the topic of checkpoints, you can visit my blog by clicking on my user name.

  • steve

    SLAPPY PUT UP OR SHUT UP ASSHOLE.

  • Bob

    Simple fact is that at no point in your video does it show them violating any of your rights. If you showed me a video of you being individually singled out and searched or even detained unfairly, I would be right behind you with my pitchfork and torch. These check points are set up to try and catch people that might slip thru the cracks at the border. The only thing your video showed me was that you are a douchebag and troll. If you showed me a video of a gov’t violating the law I would agree with you. If anything, looks like you manage to get waved thru fairly quick without having to roll down your window and answer any questions.

  • CitizenAxe

    If he is trouble maker, why don’t they just arrest him ? (illegal checkpoint) oh yeah that’s why they don’t arrest him. keep up the good work my friends, We will take back our country soon.

  • http://copblock David Swan

    Border patrols agents are assholes. They feel you have no rights. The Nazi’s did this same stuff in Germany in the late 1930′s. America is not the land of the free. We live in a police state. I love the stories of the Borber Patrol idiots getting killed because of their own stupid actions. My favorite are the two losers who fell asleep in their vehicle while parked on R&R tracks and got hit by a freight train. They made it sound as if they werew chasing smugglers and made them out to be heroes. What a bunch of complete douche bags.

  • slappy

    I can’t keep up this charade any longer. I’m just a troll. I’m a 34 year old mall security guard. I live in my mom’s basement. I failed out of the police training program at community college. The only sexual experience I’ve ever had was with my uncle. Posting comments on sites like this and pissing others off is the only way I can find to feel good. It’s really the only way I can get any attention or really get anyone to interact with me. I’m just angry at my own personal failures in life and I’m really lonely. I honestly just need a friend and a hug.
    :(

  • Common Sense

    …wow, a true patriot. You took the money.

    After what? 9 years? And one would only think that a man such as yourself, just a simple taxpayer, a victim if you will, would move to have laws stricten, to have policy changed, to have lasting change so that no other citizen becomes a victim to this unconstitutional behavior…

    …nope, just like every other plantiff, you took the money and now somehow feel you’ve beaten ‘the state.’

    Sorta selfish when you think of it that why huh.

    …oh, and since each party was responsible for their own legal fees how much of that $210,000 did you get to keep?
    Less fees and state (4%) and local taxes? Oh, and lets not forget federal taxes.

    You did pay taxes on that right?

    Maybe that’s why you’re upset, after the ’13 tax season, you’d have to claim that settlement as income since it wasn’t an ‘award’ and that amount just keeps getting smaller and smaller.

  • https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog Checkpoint USA

    As I suspected, it looks like ‘Common Sense’, or the lack thereof as the case may be, can’t actually backup any of his previous comments. Instead of countering any of my positions with independently verifiable facts, he instead resorts to some sort of irrelevant personal attack based upon a six figure settlement the cops paid out after nine years of litigation in order to coverup their own wrongdoing. That settlement btw, was only a fraction of the cost to the police department since they had to also pay their own private attorney his fees from over nine years of litigation as well.

    Regardless, come back again when you actually have something of substance to add to the discussion. In the meantime, I’ll continue my efforts for lasting change by educating others by example & seeking to have laws stricken & policy changed through my various efforts, now partially funded by the six figure settlement referenced earlier.

    You should note btw that the police department that paid out that settlement hasn’t conducted another checkpoint for years now. Funny how that works….

  • slappy

    Checkpoint USA – You are a fucking liar cunt. You bitch and whine about checkpoints yet, they obviously work. You won’t have shit changed as far as laws and protocols. You are looked at as a dumbcunt loser with nothing better to do then to fight with border patrol agents. It’s only a matter of time until you get your ass thrown in jail again. I hope they stick you in jail with the biggest meanest Mexicans so they can pound your ass big time.

  • RadicalDude

    These border agents are some of the craziest cops out there, I am about to sue a bunch of them. They arrested me and locked me in a cell for no legit reason.

  • Common Sense

    Its not a personal attack. I called you a pussy, that’d be a personal attack. Think of it as constructive critism.

    Inland checkpoints are legal, the ACLU agrees. Sobriety checkpoints are legal, the USSC agrees.

    Apparently you were stopped as part of a sobriety checkpoint, completely legal under the USSC in case you forgot. I suggest, to get to the heart of the matter, you should post your claim, and then CBP/DHS/Tribal answer to your allegations. I’d love to read it. Lets get all the facts out.

    Since a 200K offer, there must have been some horrible violence..right?
    I know that the tribal police department must have been hurting for money, I know they run 3 casinos and have profits in the millions, but I bet paying out 1/3 of your settlement was pretty harsh. Not to mention DHS and CBP who’s budgets are how much again??

    That being said, I firmly believe checkpoints, whether they be sobriety, permanent, or ‘roving’ are completely legal. But, that begs the question, how did you get yourself arrested? I bet you ran your mouth, but I guess we’ll never know since I know you will NEVER post any documents that make you appear in a negative light. I’d hate for you to loose points in the “I was activist victim” scoreboard.

    Since this took nearly 9 years for you to take the deal, something again, tells me you just feel jipped.

    In short, two governmental agencies and a (real) sovereign nation admitted no wrong doing once you cashed the check. Maybe you should buy a new truck, maybe a hybrid even.

  • Otto Maddox

    The intrusion into the 4th amendment is being forced to stop just by entering the Checkpoint.

    That’s where the intrusion also ends. We don’t have to let anyone search our bodies or our cars and we don’t have to answer any questions.

    And they can’t hold you forever just because you won’t consent or talk.

    Like it or not these checkpoints have been blessed by the Supreme Court. To argue the legality of a checkpoint while you’re being stopped at a checkpoint is just pointless.

    If more people would just shut the hell up and POLITELY ask to leave all these checkpoints would disappear in short order.

    Of course it’s human nature to blab. The police know this and rely on it. I doubt checkpoints will be going anywhere anytime soon.

  • RadicalDude

    ^^^Otto: I literally got arrested and locked in a cell @ a checkpoint for no reason! I told them not to question me w/o a lawyer and they arrested me on the spot w/ no probable cause of anything and locked me in a holding cell. It’s on video, the border agent admits I was”locked in a room” and “detained” for “not answering questions”. He even used those exact words.
    This wasn’t @ or particularly near a border either, this was just trying to travel down the highway.

  • slappy

    Radicaldude – You did something to get your ass arrested you dumb fuck. Now you are going to sue? You are a dumbcunt. Were the charges dropped? What were you really arrested for you dumbass liar? You are just pissed some officer had you figured out before you could show them what an asshole you are. You are just another dumbcunt who deserved to be in jail. Take responsibility for your own actions you lying sack of shit.

  • YankeeFan

    Slappy,

    This is such an obvious troll comment that it is boring. You need to get better. Also, calling someone a liar after you came on here bullshitting us about being an EMT is laughable. Do not stop trolling as you are hilarious and stupid and provide entertainment but stop telling lies. No one as stupid as you could even be admitted into the class!

  • .

    Slappy- just go shoot yourself with your duty weapon. Make it look like an accident and you’ll get a hero’s funeral and all the attention you want. Fucking troll. Probably a volunteer firefighter or reserve deputy.

  • t.

    Dude: Your comment said YOU got arrested at the checkpoint? Did you try out any of you legal tricks? How’d they work? Love the “freeman” reference to “traveling”

  • slappy

    Yankitfan trying to show everyone how fucking stupid he is. You continually respond to me even though I dont’ invite you to. You are just a dumb cunt fagot. The ACLU says a border checkpoint like this, the officer(s) can stop, detain, and search you. Show me the laws that says they can’t. Just fucking fagot bullshit from a dink with a camera just like you cunt.

  • RadicalDude

    @t.: What do you mean by “legal trick”? Basically it happened just like I said, I told them not to question me without an attorney present, and they arrested me on the spot and locked me in a cell with no probable cause of any crime whatsoever.

  • RadicalDude

    @t.:
    I don’t know if this what you mean by “tricks”, but here is the disposition of the matter: I called the checkpoint and was given the name of an officer “Morales” as an “assigned supervisor” of the incident. He was rude on the phone and refused to tell me the names of the kidnappers. Then he ordered me never to call the “station” again. So, I filed a FOIA, an official complaint, and a federal tort claim, and they have ignored all of them, no responsive answer to any of it, the FOIA request is about 5 months past the time they are “legally” obligated to respond. I recorded my most recent phone call w/ BP. I tried to post an article on cop block, but they didn’t post it, I asked why not, and that’s when Pete sent me a “brush off” letter. He didn’t give a reason not to post my story, just said they were busy. They’re too “busy” running stories like “Cop balances cups on top of head” and “Cop visits hardware store”?

  • RadicalDude

    So ya, it has just about almost escalated to a bivens action/foia lawsuit/possibly a federal tort claim lawsuit.

  • RadicalDude

    A “border agent”(far away from Mexico, not at the border) said I was being “detained” for “not answering questions” while I was locked in a cell. There was no probable cause of anything, it was an arbitrary/false arrest, and kidnapping/false imprisonment.

  • Common Sense

    Sounds like you have nothing Radicaldude.

  • t.

    Dude: “I told them not to question without an attorney present”. So they didnt. Just like you asked / demanded. Where’s the issue?

    “Tricks”. Guy you claim of to be or understand or even know anything about “sovereign citizens” but yet you spew their lingo all the time. “Traveling”, from “arrested” to “kidnappers”.

    Then there’s the whole “he was rude to me” thing. So? Your FOIA demand is 5 months overdo. Who’s deadline is that?

    Which do you think will get settled first, this lawsuit or your one about parking tickets? Hope you haven’t already spent any of the money you think you’re gonna win.

  • RadicalDude

    @t.:No, they did continue to question me.
    Like, I said, I was traveling down the road, I wasn’t driving, I was a passenger, is that clear to you? Yes I was falsely arrested and kidnapped, as per the plain language text of 18 U.S.C. § 1201 : US Code – Section 1201: Kidnapping. That is the principal allegation in my complaint. And then I was falsely imprisoned in a cell with no probable cause.

    Saying that is some kind of “sovereign citizen” argument is absurd on the face of it- are you claiming that sovereign citizens wrote the “United States Code.”
    The “deadline” on the FOIA is “congess”‘s, it’s in a piece of legislation called the “freedom of information act”. Basically, it mandates that “federal” agencies have to release certain kinds of information to the “public”. They are basically ignoring the complaint, and it is obvious they are doing it to cover for the wrong-doing of their colleagues.

  • RadicalDude

    @Common:
    Right back @ you

  • RadicalDude

    @t.:as to the “he was rude to me” thing, it is a showing of bad faith on his part. That is why I mention it.

    It seems like you have some kind of fascination or obsession with sovereign citizens, I don’t really want to hijack the thread talking about your “sovereign citizen” obsession, but from what I know of them, they claim something like that there is a “corporation” created when someone is born, and that the gvt somehow uses this corporate entity for its own use but the “sovereign” can “administrate” that “account” somehow themselves, am I getting it right? Or what are you talking about with the “sovereign citizens”? What, in your opinion, is a sovereign citizen exactly?

  • t.

    Dude: No guy, I understand FOIA. But no offense, with many if your past posts….I not sure you do if you just read about it online somewhere. So many of the things, allegations you say and make are just so out their and lunny, that I don’t know what to believe form you. Just look at the “cities can’t enforce their parking” ordinance thing. That’s lunny.

    Now, maybe you’re right about your experience and that you will ultimately prevail and win hundreds of dollars. But maybe, just maybe, Border Patrol has some smart lawyers from the DOJ giving them advice. Maybe. And maybe they have dealt with folks just like you before…and handled it as advised. Maybe. But you take it as far as you can. Same goes for your parking ticket boondoggle. Go for it.

    As for the so reign citizen thing. Must just be a crazy coincidence that you use the same words and lingo. You try the exact same court room tactics. Just an incredible coincidence

    You must be a bad luck magnet.

  • slappy

    Checkpoint USA you are a fucking liar and a fraud. You say there are all these laws in Arizona that state these officers can’t detain you or search you. You are fucking wrong you dumbcunt. Here you are spouting off like you know everything about these checkpoints and you know nothing at all. I can see why your wife left you fagot. How many times are you molesting your children every week. You are a piece of shit lying cunt. Go choke yourself. Say hi to your wife for me. She always says I’m the best.

  • RadicalDude

    No, Actually I am a good luck magnet. I am lucky it went as well as it did.
    Those border cops are dangerous “lunny”‘s
    Look what happened to Pastor Anderson.

    There is already lots of court precedent
    Dunaway v. New York – 442 U.S. 200 (1979)
    florida v royer
    martinez fuerte

  • YankeeFan

    Say hi to your wife for me. She always says I’m the best.

    Actually slappy, I heard when you pulled your pants down, she wanted to skip right to the cigarette and nearly died of laughter!!

  • Common Sense

    RD

    I didn’t claim something happened, and then when pressed, have nothing to back it up.

    Thus, you have nothing but a fairy tale.

  • Common Sense

    YF

    Not bad, but for a good dig, you have to be more visual.

    “And tell your wife, that knobber last night at the park-in-ride was awesome, like a beagle licking a snow cone on a warm sunny day….”

  • slappy

    Yankitfan – Again you can’t even come up with your own material so you copy mine. How very fucking sad for you. This proves my point that fucking cunt activists like you will take what someone said and twist it around. Thanks for proving my point you dumb cunt.

  • RadicalDude

    @Common Sense:
    Here is the video, yes it really happened, just like I said, they arrested me for “not answering questions”, without probable cause of a crime ever even happening, let alone that I was involved. One of the “border agents” (again, this wasn’t even at the border) even admits that I was “locked in a room”, “and “detained”, “for not answering questions”. Other than the video and my testimony, I don’t have much other evidence except a recorded phone call which doesn’t prove much of relevance except that they are taking a lot longer with my FOIA than they are supposed to.
    I have requested reports, video, recordings, etc, they have not responded to my FOIA request, which is long past due.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8vdEOP3Je8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4wxCa-xN1g&feature=plcp

  • YankeeFan

    Slappy,

    Nice troll effort but still coming up short. I am mocking you for being a troll on a site that is 90% crap and for being called out by the site moderator.

  • slappy

    Yankitfan You are right this site is 90% crap you dumb cunt. Actually it’s more like 110% When was I called out by the site’s moderator? More of your fucking bullshit lies you dumb fagot. Why don’t you tell me what law says an Arizona patrol officer can’t stop you, detain you, or search you. Your just another dumb fuck bitch talking to hear his head roar. No wonder your skank wife left you fagot. Go choke yourself cunt.

  • barney miller

    information about slappy: went to hinsdale high school in new hampshire, was one of the biggest druggy losers there. grew up dirt poor in a trailer park. very small and weedy, under 5 feet tall. has always been an idiot and enjoyed annoying people.obviously has no life as he has nothing better to do than go on every post and say basically the same things over and over.has no education and no knowledge of the constitution,the bill of rights or law in general. best ignored because of these reasons and the fact that he has nothing better to do.

  • slappy

    Yankeefan, I am so sorry. It’s only the years of drug abuse, generations of inbreeding in my family and untreated syphilis that I caught from my mother that have ravaged my brains and turned them to shit. I should be nicer to you, after all, you are one of the very few people in my miserable life that pays attention to me. In fact, you might just be my best friend, I love you man!

  • Common Sense

    RD

    The first video, you were apparently on a bus at a border checkpoint and suddenly envoken when asked about your citizenship.

    ..am I infering that correctly?

    Later, the CBP agent repeatedly says you can get back on the bus once you declare your citizenship, but you repeatedly decline to answer any questions.

    I don’t think the detention at a border triggers the 5th. I seems you wanted to make them jump hoops, so they in turn let you sit.

    Sorry, you don’t have a case. But that’s just my opninion. In todays world you can sue a hamsandwich, so best of luck.

  • RadicalDude

    ^^^@Common Sense:
    Thanks for your opinion. I already cited the court precedents, these issues were already “clearly established” at the time of the incident in question. It is illegal to lock someone in a cell without probable cause, period.

    That is practically the text-book definition of “false arrest”.

    I’m not challenging the legality of the checkpoint, nor the referral of the bus to “secondary”. While I personally find these practices disgusting and I find they violate natural law, I am aware of the court precedent, so I don’t even plan on going there w/ my lawsuit.
    Dunaway v. New York – 442 U.S. 200 (1979)
    florida v royer
    martinez fuerte

    Also, I wasn’t really trying to make them “jump through hoops”, necessarily, I just wanted to be able to travel down the highway, mind my own business and I just didn’t want to be bothered by belligerent authoritarian goons at that moment. I had a similar experience going the other way, a border agent got on a bus and asked people similar questions, and I said something similar. He asked me again, and I said that if he continued to question me after I said not to, that it constitutes harassment, and he said “OK”, and just went about questioning the other passengers and that was basically that. So, I didn’t necessarily expect trouble.

    Also “declaring your citizenship” is just stating a legal opinion. Asking someone their citizenship calls for a legal conclusion, it is not a question of fact. Factually, I was born in Indiana(that is a statement of fact), does that make me a citizen? That calls for a legal conclusion.
    Whether or not one is a citizen is a matter of legal opinion, refusing to formulate a legal conclusion without an attorney is not a crime. Actually, it is standard, when one is asked a legal question, to refer the propounder to one’s lawyer.