Fort Worth Police “Accidentally” Murder 72 Year Old Man

Published On July 28, 2013 | By John Freeman | Articles

 

According to dallasnews.com

Police said poor lighting led officers to the wrong house, where they shot and killed a 72-year-old Fort Worth man, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports.

Waller, a father of four and a grandfather of six, died in the early morning hours of May 28 after police responded to a burglary alarm call. Waller’s family said Waller had heard a noise and grabbed his gun for protection, our Wendy Hundley reported.

According to a search warrant affidavit obtained by the Star-Telegram, officers had been dispatched to 409 Havenwood Lane. Waller lived at 404 Havenwood Lane. Police began inadvertently searching around Waller’s home.

Officers said Waller engaged them and pointed a gun at them. At the time, police told the Star-Telegram that the officers encountered Waller “at the back of his house near the garage and driveway.”  Read more…

 

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  • RadicalDude

    Est autem vis legem simulans.

  • ExposerOfCriminals

    These officers will no doubt receive awards and promotions for their “bravery” in this assassination. Your tax dollars in action.

  • d0nj3nko

    The swine will get away with this, there will be no punishment. We are living through truly sickening times where the police state is running wild and we have little time left if we want to shut it down! God bless us all…

  • Chris Mallory

    Typical cop malfeasance. Now more than ever we need to disarm the cops. One drop of blood from one citizen is worth more than the lives of every cop employed today.

    All cops lie, all the time.

    Disarm cops for a safer America.

  • Jason Free 123

    The guy pointed a gun at the police. Of course they are going to shoot back. The dumb ass shouldn’t of pulled a weapon.

    Chris – you stupid fucker. You have never had any contact with the police in your life time. I asked you about your statement that says governmental employees are a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments. WHere is your fucking proof asshole. You toll around here lying and pushing fraud yet you don’t back up a single thing you say. You fucking cunt.

  • steve

    and now for the brilliant comments from the troll.

  • Jason Free 123

    Oh look, it’s steve the fucking lying piece of shit. I see you are still trying to get me into the woods with you. I keep telling you I like women. IF you are so desperate to go fishing, dig up your mom and take her. You could also use her for bait asshole.

  • t

    Don’t points guns at people.

  • Chris Mallory

    A citizen should not be able to point a gun at armed men trespassing on his property? The government employees were trespassing and committed murder. PERIOD.

    This could be avoided by requiring all government employees to wear flashing lights on their uniforms and by disarming them. No more citizens should die because government employees are such blood thirsty thugs.

  • Jason Free 123

    Chris – You stupid fucker. No one commited murder. You still haven’t answered why you think goverment employees are a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments. You must be talking out your ass again. Making shit up as you go. Lying like steve and Radicaldude. Fucking loser.

  • certain

    I can’t believe you fucking cops and wannabes defending this. Don’t point guns at people?????

    Here’s a better one – If you’re going to commit armed acts of aggression under the color of authority, make sure you’re in the right fucking house. This is on the cops, period. Every one of them involved should be arrested and prosecuted for manslaughter, at the least. Of course, according to the rules cops apply to everybody else, since they entered his house illegally, and a person was killed, they should all be charged with murder. But as we all know, that kind of thing is reserved for those of us who don’t have a badge.

    Way to go fuck-nuts. Law enforcement will play a very large part in the eventual death of this nation and the chaos which follows. Just because you didn’t want to follow the rules you “enforce”.
    LOL, 2-faced double-standard motherfuckers.

    Fucking slaps, it’s too freaking funny that you’re calling somebody else a loser, goat-fucking puke stain that you are. Those cops did indeed commit murder. The went into a house without a warrant and shot someone who was LEGALLY DEFENDING HIS HOUSEHOLD FROM CRIMINAL HOME INVADERS. In a civilized society unpoisoned by police unions, district attorneys, and judges all supporting the illegal actions of crooked thugs with badges, that would be enough to get them fired, arrested, and prosecuted. Add in the fact that a person was killed and they would be going to prison for a long time. Unfortunately, we don’t live in that type of civilized society. We have to deal with the corrupt and broken hypocritical system we have. Which, as I said above, will help lead to the downfall of this country.

  • certain

    Hey d0nj3nko – Better watch out, I saw a JDL website where they said you have to go.

    And as you well know, those Zionists, as you call them, are all powerful and running most of society today, so I guess you really don’t have much of a chance against them, huh?

    Because remember, just because you’re a paranoid fruitcake doesn’t mean the Zionists aren’t out to get you.

  • t

    Mallory: As usually…you make no sense.

    certain: “armed acts of aggression”. Too dang funny. How about turning on an exterior lightinstead going out for an armed confrontation? Stooge.

  • Alvin

    So, according to t, you may indeed practice your 2nd amend. right by owning a firearm. However, it is his opinion that you may only protect your property up to the inside of the walls. You are prohibited, in his learned view, to extend your property protection beyond your domicile’s walls. I may be wrong in interpreting the Constitution differently, but I doubt it.

    Also, t, who was in the wrong in this occurance? Who misread numbers on the home, either through negligence, stupidity, undertraining, or carelessness? Who fired at whom in this contact? Who failed to identify themselves as Police officers before firing their weapons? Who isn’t showing the least degree of remorse for their poor practices/actions?

    I would submit that were a thinking person to contemplate the occurrance in totality, the Police would be fingered to be in the wrong here.

  • Josh

    The problem is Alvin that in the eyes of badge lickers cops CANNOT make a mistake, they are infallible. If something goes wrong it’s the public’s fault not theirs.

  • Chris Mallory

    No, t, you defend the scum and make excuses of government sanctioned murder. These government employees were armed and trespassing. The home owner would have been well within his rights to have shot both of them down where they stood. It is a damn shame that he didn’t.

  • Jason Free 123

    Chris Mallory – You are fucking lying again. Some states don’t allow you to shoot anyone you stupid fucker. Just like all of your other bullshit comments, you lie and lie and lie. You still haven’t answered my question shitbox. Show the facts that says government employees are a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments.

    Chris is lying again. Doesn’t look like anyone believes any shit you say. Chris the fucking liar.

  • Shawn

    @t

    “Don’t points guns at people.”

    Armed strangers were on his property. Would you handle it unarmed? You’re a cop. I doubt you take a piss without packing, let alone home invaders.

    The cops were not supposed to be there. They screwed up, went to the wrong home, and then shot someone for doing what any cop would do when there was a potential danger.

    His mistake was not automatically shooting the intruders. Then the innocent man would be alive, and the idiot cops would be the ones dead. After all, cops automatically shoot anyone with a gun, without a thought that an innocent person might be armed. So why not give them the same? His only mistake was valuing the life of another more than a cop does.
    So that is the lesson you’re teaching with your stupidity. Shoot first and then identify the target. The cop method of self defense.

  • Tony J

    72 year old should have shot the cops. They broke into his home, the shooting took place in his garage.

  • Tony J

    72 year old should have shot the cops. They broke into his home, the shooting took place in his garage.

  • RadicalDude

    Shawn,

    Your ignorance is showing again.

    A tragic mistake. I feel bad for the family and my prayers go out to them.

    However, accidental shootings happen daily amongst ordinary citizens with no charges being filed. You think every time a cop makes a mistake they should go to prison. How nice it must be to be perfect.

    Now, the PD messed up by having to rookies paired together with less than a years experience between them. Some reports I’ve read say they announced themselves as the police. Some reports I’ve read have the wife admitting that and others don’t. One report quotes her as saying her husband made the MISTAKE of thinking the cops were intruders.

    TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE:

    Where the houses numbered properly? Did they have numbers at all?

    I’ve gone to the wrong address mistakenly.

    If ANY of the 3 parties involved had a lick of sense this wouldn’t have happened.

    Cops aren’t the only ones at fault.

  • Josh

    Lol better have you house numbered right or the police and can come shoot you.

  • Shawn

    @Radical, probably the evil twin

    “Where the houses numbered properly? Did they have numbers at all? ”
    Yes. I read this article elsewhere, and the city apparently paints the numbers on the sidewalk in front of the house. And if in any doubt, the officers should have acted with restraint.

    “One report quotes her as saying her husband made the MISTAKE of thinking the cops were intruders.”

    That was clearly his assumption, and it wasn’t unreasonable of him. As for them identifying themselves, time after time I’ve seen stories of these things, cops ALWAYS claim they identified. But witnesses, and sometimes other cops, say they didn’t.
    When someone screws up, they will always ‘clean up’ the story to cover their asses. And who knows what he heard, or when.

    “A tragic mistake. ”

    No, bad judgement. Time and again, cops shoot first and ask questions later, even when they know that innocent people can legitimately be armed. They’ve even killed each other this way.

    “If ANY of the 3 parties involved had a lick of sense this wouldn’t have happened.

    Cops aren’t the only ones at fault.”

    How is this guy at fault? All he did was arm himself because of intruders. You would do the same. That is NOT a mistake. He was correct. They alone are responsible for entering the wrong place. If there was any doubt, it should have been factored into their decision making. They had no self restraint.

    The one thing I’m learning from these incidents is, If in any doubt, pull the trigger. Because if it is a cop, he won’t hesitate for one moment to kill an innocent. Why should I value his life any more than he values mine?

  • Josh

    Something interesting to think about is if the man had shot the police and killed one of them, the badge lickers here would be calling for the death penalty.

  • RadicalDude

    Shawn,

    Yet in another report it is said that he dropped the gun after they announced themselves as the police, then he picked it back up. What are we to believe? Please keep interjecting your personal hatred towards the police though. It obviously makes your decision making process easier.

    What would I have done?

    Armed my self and made damn sure of what I was pointing my gun at before I did it. Your the biggest advocate on this sight about that. What? it only applies to the police? How about turn on a damn light. Announced his own presence and announce that your armed from a covered position. Open up the lines of communication.

    Sorry some blame lies with him.

  • RadicalDude

    Josh,

    If it was done with malicious intent yes. If they did it by mistake. No. Not me personally. I’ll look at the totality of the circumstances. Unlike some on here.

  • certain

    Here’s the totality:

    They entered a private residence, without a warrant, then shot the homeowner when he was protecting his home and family.

    And what, do cops always wait until they know exactly whats going on before THEY start blasting away??????

    FUCK NO!!!

    Cowardly douches use good old Officer Safety to justify ANYTHING they do. “I’m going home tonight”, etc.

    As I always say, double-standard ass-wipes.

  • RadicalDude

    Yes Certain,

    The totality of ONE side. Letting your emotions and bigoted point of view towards the police help with your decision making I see. Perhaps you should re-read some of my comments.

  • RadicalDude

    Certain says:

    “And what, do cops always wait until they know exactly whats going on before THEY start blasting away??????”

    Yes some do. Condemnation blanket statements. Perhaps you should get to the route of your hatred towards the police.

    My god how can you be in real estate with your attitude.

  • steve

    Don’t mess with Texas.

  • Sukoi

    @t:”Don’t points guns at people.”

    If your cop buddies, who are apparently scared shitless of their own shadow, followed that advise, then there would be a lot less dead people in this country.

  • Jason Frees Dad

    Jason Free = Infected Ass Nugget

  • Common Sense

    Why would a 72 year old man exit his home armed with a pistol to investigate flashlights? His age tells me that he is not capable of wrestling a pair of would-be burglars to the ground. His only method of defense is deadly force. He had no flashlight and his house had no exteior lighting.

  • Jason Free 123

    The guy should have never went out with a gun. Period. If it were burglers and they were armed, he would have met the same fate. Dumbass. For the fucking activists who think they can draw a gun and save yourself from someone who comes at you, you can clearly see you will fucking lose. The guy had his fucking gun out and he still lost big time you fucking knobs.

  • Tony J

    An attached garage is considered inside the home.

    COPS were fair game to be shot and killed. Homeowner had every right to blast them on sight as they were armed, breaking and entered a property.

    SHOOT THE COPS and let a JURY decide.

  • Shawn

    @common
    “Why would a 72 year old man exit his home armed with a pistol to investigate flashlights?”

    My old boss kept going to 84 and moved good. Also had the attitude of a war vet. No one screwed with him.

  • Shawn

    @Jason

    “The guy had his fucking gun out and he still lost big time you fucking knobs”

    Because he wasn’t as eager to kill as the cops where?

  • certain

    @Radical (or whoever you area) –

    Way off base, homer. Blanket hatred of cops? Not even. I have a blanket hatred of a corrupt and broken system, which tends to shield it’s own no matter what they do, to perpetuate the myth of the “infallible” police officer who never makes a mistake or does anything wrong. A system in which cops can openly attempt to murder somebody who poses no threat to them at all, and face no charges. The cops looking for Dorner did it twice. And are being shielded from prosecution by the cops and the DA.

    And real estate? I’m glad you can’t believe I’m in real estate, because I’m not, and never have been. Ever. I’m a freaking engineer. Which means I’m good at spotting poor design and performance in a system. And guess what I see in our “just-us” system?

    And for the rest of you morons who just can’t seem to figure this part of it out, I’ll make it simple. In legal speak, there is a term called the “but for factor”. It questions if there is a single action taken, which but for this action being taken, the event in question would / would not take place. In this scenario, the but for is clear. If the cops had taken enough time and concern to assure the had the right place, the gentleman would still be alive. Period. The excuse of “poor lighting” is so much bullshit. I’m no lawyer, but the firm I work for has a forensic construction engineering division, and I listen to those guys chatting about different cases in the break-room, so I have a vague familiarity with some of the terms.

    And t, if it’s not an armed act of aggression, what exactly would you call it when armed people storm your house/property? A Sunday picnic, maybe? LOL and you call me a stooge.

  • bhoodlum

    Radical dude: “However, accidental shootings happen daily amongst ordinary citizens with no charges being filed. You think every time a cop makes a mistake they should go to prison. How nice it must be to be perfect.” Umm, cops are trained, supposedly, to a high level, to respond to a wide variety of situations, so they should be held to a higher standard than the rest of the population. And yes, they should face discipline, possibly even prison when they cross the line. If you’ve ever been on the wrong end of police “justice” you would understand this.

  • Jason Free 123

    Shawn – You stupid fucking cunt. If someone pointed a gun at you I supposed you would just drop to your knees and blow the guy. First dumb pieces of shit like you spout off that carrying a gun will spare you but this guy proved it won’t. Go fuck yourself you tupid cunt.

  • Tony J

    I wouldn’t hesitate to drop anyone cop or not that was in my garage … I carry a 50 cal with a laser point … I’ll drop you on sight and deal with it later.

    I killed hundreds of gooks in nam as I was told they were the enemy.

  • ExposerOfCriminals

    Obviously, this elderly man reasonably believed that the intruders intended to harm him, which ultimately happened in the definitive way. The dirty pig scum should have made it clear that they were cops, but they probably wanted to have the slightest excuse to assassinate yet another innocent person. Taxpayers will foot the million dollar lawsuit bill, thank you very much.

  • ExposerOfCriminals

    According to sub-literate wacko Jason Free, all criminal cops are innocent yet all of their law-abiding victims and critics are criminals by default. I am unsure about why this website, which purports to be against police misconduct, would allow an attention-seeking mental defective like Jason Free to post preposterously invalid and non-evidenced babble which unconditionally defends cop felons. Note that the demented Jason Free is so insecure that he must always have the last (sub literate) word, a symptom of his psychopathy.

  • Jason Free 123

    exposwerofcriminals – Have you written anymore bullshit articles? Your use of lies and fraud make the stories hilarious. You should be fucking writing for Disney. You don’t even use your real name and that makes you a coward and a fraud. Last night when I was fucking your mom, She confided that you wear a keebler elf costume to get little boys to reach down into your underwear and find what you call your “special fairy dust”. You are one sick fucking bastard. She also told me you like fucking your mentally retarded brother. She says she often finds you in his bed, in your keebler elf costume tounge punching his fart box. You need to take your gerbil collection and yourself into the closet and choke yourself you fucking freak of nature.

  • ExposerOfCriminals

    LMAO on steroids times infinity! Nobody with an IQ above 70 would take seriously the meaningless babble of uneducated, unintelligent weirdo Jason Free. According to him/her/it, all criminal cops are innocent yet all of their law-abiding victims and critics are criminals by default. I am unsure about why this website, which purports to be against police misconduct, would allow an attention-seeking, crude, obsessed mental defective like Jason Free to perpetually post preposterously invalid, non evidenced, nonsensical spam which unconditionally defends all cops proven to be felons. Note that the profoundly demented Jason Free is so insecure that he must always have the last (sub literate) word, a symptom of his psychopathy.

  • RadicalDude

    Certain,

    My apologies about the real estate comment. Thought you were for some reason.

    “Way off base, homer. Blanket hatred of cops? Not even. I have a blanket hatred of a corrupt and broken system, which tends to shield it’s own no matter what they do, to perpetuate the myth of the “infallible” police officer who never makes a mistake or does anything wrong.”

    Gotcha. You especially hate all cops. Thanks for clearing that up.

    I stand by my earlier comment. If any of them had a lick of sense this wouldn’t have happened.

  • RadicalDude

    Bhood,

    I agree with holding them to a higher standard. However, they are not super human and therefore are prone to make mistakes like the rest of us. I’m not trying to down play the situation by calling a “mistake” either.

    These were two rookie cops fresh out of the academy. They didn’t have enough training on the streets. And I don’t care how many paint ball or air soft rounds you fire at each other in training, the oh shit factor isn’t there like it is in a real life.

    I have never had a problem with any police interaction I have had. Maybe it’s my attitude or maybe I got “lucky”. I took my tickets when I deserved them and have been let go for being polite and respectful

  • t

    Wow….what a “bunch o’ stupid”.

    A tragedy. True.

    But again….the first reaction shouldn’t be…”I’m grab my gun and go get them”. No one was breaking into his house. Just the police in full uniform walking around outside checking on an alarm. No turning on the lights….no yelling “who is that”….no calling the police to report a prowler. Nope. Straight to grab the gun and go confront the unknown.

    Problem was…the “unknown” was armed as well. And they didn’t (and don’t have to) wait to get shot.

    Don’t point guns at people.

  • Jason Free 123

    Radicaldude – are you truly that fucking stupid? Dispatch gave them an address and the technology screwed up by giving them a wrong address. The guy should have called 911 instead of pulling out a gun and sneaking around looking for someone. What the fuck was he going to accomplish? You get your tickets because you fucking break the law all the fucking time.

  • YankeeFan

    T,

    After some consideration, I agree the elderly gentleman shouldn’t have left his house with a gun. He should have flipped on lights and called out the law was called. That still doesn’t absolve the police of their responsibility to be at the right place. That’s if they were at the wrong place. According to the story, they were.

  • t

    YF: True-ish. Simply walking in someone’s yard isn’t trespassing. Nor does it warrant a death sentence. Hanging out the sign that says “trespasser will be shot” doesn’t work legally. “Castle doctrine” doesn’t apply.

    But IF you think the officer are in then wrong. As in should be charged with something, what would that be? (YF…this isn’t necessarily to you, just a thought exercise for the crowd).

    All the gun play…packing “heat” everywhere and all the time won’t lead to anything good.

  • silvestri

    The main thing that was not mentioned is the phone call to 911 or the local police before or while you get your rifle/pistol/crossbow.
    I’m pretty sure they would be interested in hearing about armed strangers wandering around on your property.

    Pointing a gun at someone means you are ready to kill them. If you are not sure about what is going on you should not do that.

    Also, this is Fort Worth, TEXAS. Every other story about possible thieves and vandals trespassing ends up with the owner getting overly-enthusiastic about shooting the ‘bad guys’. The police should act accordingly.

  • Josh

    So you aren’t allowed to shoot someone that comes on your property but the police are allowed to kill you if they come on on your property and you have a gun? Gotta love statist ideology.

  • YankeeFan

    T,

    I do not think they should be charged. I, like you and many others, think that copblock does a dis-service with their stupid, emotional titles to these stories. From what I gather from the story here are my thoughts. I personally think that someone should not go walking around with a gun like that unless you have family you need to defend. Just to go out based on hearing something isn’t the best move. Call the law and if those persons decide to come in, you send them into eternity. Otherwise, chill inside armed and wait for the law.

    As to the incident, It is a tragedy it happened and if they were at the wrong house, then something needs to be done about it. Retraining, some form of punishment ,maybe, if the violated procedures, protocals or just flat out didn’t pay attention. But it appears some mistake was made by the officers but I do not think they went out and committed, according to Hoyle’s Rules definition of murder! That to me is silly!!

  • RadicalDude

    The first comment on here is from me, until this comment it has been my only one on this page. The other ones that look like they’re from me are from the troll impostor.

    He says he has never had problems during police interactions, that should be a tip off since I have sued the cops before and I am currently suing 3 federal agents.

    Within a few days of them implementing the log in feature he has found a way to get past it and continue the impersonation and make his name look like mine. I am about 95% sure he is doing this by placing an invisible ascii character in his log in ID.

    If you see more comments from a “RadicalDude” on this page after this comment they will also be him.

  • muffins99

    personally i think a better method of home defense is to choose a spot in your home to “entrench” then when you hear strange noises grab your family, gun, and phone go to your safe spot, if you have chosen wisely this will put the bad guys[whoever they are] in a kill zone before they ever see you then you can cut them down while your wife is on the phone with 911 take heart from GZ’s verdict you can win stay safe!

  • Shawn

    @t
    “But IF you think the officer are in then wrong. As in should be charged with something, what would that be? (YF…this isn’t necessarily to you, just a thought exercise for the crowd).”

    Manslaughter? But hey, I bet you are just as open minded with the guy who was swated and shot 6 cops, killing one of them. Funny how they don’t want to take his word that he didn’t know they were cops.

    “All the gun play…packing “heat” everywhere and all the time won’t lead to anything good.”
    Hilarious, coming from a cop.

  • t

    Ah…manslaughter. Tell me how. Use your own states laws or Texas’ laws. How do you get to manslaughter.

    I’ll wait….. …… ….. ……

  • certain

    The cops were in the wrong place – period.

    They shouldn’t have been on the guys property at all – period.

    A criminal shooting, however, since the ones that will determine if it was criminal or not are on the same team as the shooters, it will be called “justifiable”.

    An old man was murdered for protecting his home, and you stupid fucks still somehow assign blame to him. What HE should or shouldn’t have done. Once again, if the cops could read and comprehend directions at more than a 2nd grade level, and had gone to the right house, none of this would have happened. It’s the cops fault,

  • certain

    Yeah t you’ll wait, you’ve probably got a few hours on your shift at the mall to kill, don’t you?

  • YankeeFan

    Certain,

    Spend some time reading peoples comments before you run your mouth. Defend your home from inside where you have the higher ground. Where you have the upper hand. Hell, My mom and dad were told this by my moms uncle Joesph who was a reserve deputy Sheriff here in Sacramento. If you ever hear noises and think you are dealing with scumbags, it’s best to stay inside, arm yourself and call the police. Giving up your position because your precious car is being messed with isn’t smart. No, I do not think it is smart to grab a gun and go walkabout outside at night looking for something that maybe armed. Especially if you do not know where they are.

    Putting that aside, the police were at the wrong house and made a mistake. There is no doubt there.

  • t

    certain: First note…Shawn was s art enough to shut up about because the facts don’t support any of his ideas / comments
    This of course would never stop you. You plow on into stupid. He wasnt murdered (that is a very specific definition in criminal law and clearly doesn’t come close to applying). And he was t protecting his home. He grabbed a gun and went out to confront uniformed police officers. Heck, if he had even challenged from a position of cover…announcing his presence….we wouldn’t be talking about it. But instead….my statement of “don’t point guns at people” is a s accurate as can be. Hate you miss that. Kinda scary really.