<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Cop Lies, Man Spends Five Years in Prison</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/</link>
	<description>Badges Don&#039;t Grant Extra Rights</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:36:53 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	
<xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" />
	<item>
		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-25827</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-25827</guid>
		<description>I had a LAPD detective lie about me in court.He said I was a violent racist.My partner is Korean,my girlfriend is japanese,and I have no history of violence whatsoever. He got mad because I didnt become a snitch for him.He threatened my 88 year old grandmother,destroyed my legal private property,and tried to put me in prison for nothing.He FAILED. I&#039;m sure there are good detectives in the LAPD ....but I happened to meet the anti-christ. Poor guy....I kinda feel sorry for him....remember kids.never ever ever talk to the police.  ever.  they just want to fuck you up. it&#039;s what they do.

call your lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a LAPD detective lie about me in court.He said I was a violent racist.My partner is Korean,my girlfriend is japanese,and I have no history of violence whatsoever. He got mad because I didnt become a snitch for him.He threatened my 88 year old grandmother,destroyed my legal private property,and tried to put me in prison for nothing.He FAILED. I&#8217;m sure there are good detectives in the LAPD &#8230;.but I happened to meet the anti-christ. Poor guy&#8230;.I kinda feel sorry for him&#8230;.remember kids.never ever ever talk to the police.  ever.  they just want to fuck you up. it&#8217;s what they do.</p>
<p>call your lawyer.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Shocker: Police Officers Lie&#160;&#124;&#160;Cop Block</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-22944</link>
		<dc:creator>Shocker: Police Officers Lie&#160;&#124;&#160;Cop Block</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 22:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-22944</guid>
		<description>[...] those lies are minor, such as when they lie to get off work and sometimes those lies are serious, such as when they lie to put an innocent person in prison.   For those overly trusting potential jurors, here is a little compilation of police officer lies [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] those lies are minor, such as when they lie to get off work and sometimes those lies are serious, such as when they lie to put an innocent person in prison.   For those overly trusting potential jurors, here is a little compilation of police officer lies [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: cab67</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-9048</link>
		<dc:creator>cab67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-9048</guid>
		<description>From what I&#039;ve read, one of four things must be true of whoever signed the indemnity agreement on behalf of Lee&#039;s Summit:

1.  They were unaware that a lawsuit charging violations of constitutional rights might lead to a judgment that constitutional rights had been violated.

2.  They were unaware that city ordinances could be interpreted as making such indemnity illegal.  (This is a specious interpretation, by the way.)

3. They knew both of these, but were highly confident that Mr. White would lose and no one would have to pay anything.

4.  They knew these things and signed anyway, knowing that they could always fall back on the city-statute-makes-it-illegal argument to wiggle out.

1 and 2 indicate gross incompetence, and 3 and 4 indicate dishonesty.  And these are the only four possibilities here - there are no others.  (Nor are they mutually exclusive.)

If I were a Lee&#039;s Summit resident, I&#039;d be doing whatever I could to replace the current mayor,  city council, and whoever was hired to represent them in court.  They are obviously incompetent, criminally dishonest, or both.  And interest is accumulating on the judgment - Lee&#039;s Summit will eventually have to pay, and the longer they put it off, the more they&#039;ll have to cough up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve read, one of four things must be true of whoever signed the indemnity agreement on behalf of Lee&#8217;s Summit:</p>
<p>1.  They were unaware that a lawsuit charging violations of constitutional rights might lead to a judgment that constitutional rights had been violated.</p>
<p>2.  They were unaware that city ordinances could be interpreted as making such indemnity illegal.  (This is a specious interpretation, by the way.)</p>
<p>3. They knew both of these, but were highly confident that Mr. White would lose and no one would have to pay anything.</p>
<p>4.  They knew these things and signed anyway, knowing that they could always fall back on the city-statute-makes-it-illegal argument to wiggle out.</p>
<p>1 and 2 indicate gross incompetence, and 3 and 4 indicate dishonesty.  And these are the only four possibilities here &#8211; there are no others.  (Nor are they mutually exclusive.)</p>
<p>If I were a Lee&#8217;s Summit resident, I&#8217;d be doing whatever I could to replace the current mayor,  city council, and whoever was hired to represent them in court.  They are obviously incompetent, criminally dishonest, or both.  And interest is accumulating on the judgment &#8211; Lee&#8217;s Summit will eventually have to pay, and the longer they put it off, the more they&#8217;ll have to cough up.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ken Hagler</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8854</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hagler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8854</guid>
		<description>There&#039;s actually a Federal law on the books (Title 18, Part I, Chapter 13, Section 241 US Code) that says this cop could get up to the death penalty for what he did. As far as I know this law has never been enforced, and I very much doubt it ever will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s actually a Federal law on the books (Title 18, Part I, Chapter 13, Section 241 US Code) that says this cop could get up to the death penalty for what he did. As far as I know this law has never been enforced, and I very much doubt it ever will be.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8797</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8797</guid>
		<description>oh they cant pay him cuz it would violate a city ordinance, i see now!
we can violate your entire life, career, relationship with children, get you violated in prison.
but we cant violate a city ordinance.
F**K YOUR CITY ORDINANCE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh they cant pay him cuz it would violate a city ordinance, i see now!<br />
we can violate your entire life, career, relationship with children, get you violated in prison.<br />
but we cant violate a city ordinance.<br />
F**K YOUR CITY ORDINANCE!!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8795</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8795</guid>
		<description>if we really had JUSTICE in this country the cop &amp; lawyer would both be fired &amp; charged with perjury, be forced to pay him back everything with interest &amp; go to jail for at least 5 years.
we need street justice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we really had JUSTICE in this country the cop &amp; lawyer would both be fired &amp; charged with perjury, be forced to pay him back everything with interest &amp; go to jail for at least 5 years.<br />
we need street justice!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ken Hagler</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8777</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hagler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8777</guid>
		<description>The only difference between cleaning out the pockets of one person standing there unresisting and cleaning out the pockets of one thousand is how long it would take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only difference between cleaning out the pockets of one person standing there unresisting and cleaning out the pockets of one thousand is how long it would take.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brodie</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8776</link>
		<dc:creator>Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8776</guid>
		<description>They can easily do that to one person.  Not so, when it is many.  Ghandi and the civil rights movements are two examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can easily do that to one person.  Not so, when it is many.  Ghandi and the civil rights movements are two examples.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ken Hagler</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8775</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hagler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8775</guid>
		<description>They could do that (and probably would occasionally, to help their friends in the prison guard unions), but it would be simpler for them to just remove all the valuables you have on your person and let you go on your way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could do that (and probably would occasionally, to help their friends in the prison guard unions), but it would be simpler for them to just remove all the valuables you have on your person and let you go on your way.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brodie</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8774</link>
		<dc:creator>Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8774</guid>
		<description>Ken,

I am not talking about resisting the government.  I am talking about not obeying the government.  That just means not paying taxes, and when they come after you, you don&#039;t defend yourself, you let them take you to jail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I am not talking about resisting the government.  I am talking about not obeying the government.  That just means not paying taxes, and when they come after you, you don&#8217;t defend yourself, you let them take you to jail.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8632</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8632</guid>
		<description>&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War&quot;

Charley Hardman&#039;s analogy of the US civil war in the first two paragraphs here is a must-read:
http://saltypig.com/articles/2006/12/this-dead-america.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War&#8221;</p>
<p>Charley Hardman&#8217;s analogy of the US civil war in the first two paragraphs here is a must-read:<br />
<a href="http://saltypig.com/articles/2006/12/this-dead-america.htm" rel="nofollow">http://saltypig.com/articles/2006/12/this-dead-america.htm</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8630</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8630</guid>
		<description>“Despite an indemnification agreement which removed the city as a defendant in this case, it has been determined after an extensive review that paying for any damages *would be a violation of city ordinances*.”

Must be nice to be able to just make shit up to absolve oneself of responsibility. Like any other so-called law, ordinances that are morally wrong are inherently invalid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Despite an indemnification agreement which removed the city as a defendant in this case, it has been determined after an extensive review that paying for any damages *would be a violation of city ordinances*.”</p>
<p>Must be nice to be able to just make shit up to absolve oneself of responsibility. Like any other so-called law, ordinances that are morally wrong are inherently invalid.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Paula Parmeley Carter</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8564</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula Parmeley Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 03:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8564</guid>
		<description>@ARNIE
It is my understanding that the judge was also aware of the affair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ARNIE<br />
It is my understanding that the judge was also aware of the affair.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ken Hagler</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8558</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hagler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 03:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8558</guid>
		<description>For an example of what happens when people stop doing what the government tells them to, see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an example of what happens when people stop doing what the government tells them to, see here:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brodie</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8551</link>
		<dc:creator>Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8551</guid>
		<description>Ken, really, what do you think would happen if 50% of the population stopped obeying the government?  Just stopped paying their fines and taxes and stopped obeying their stupid rules?  You think the other half would, what, throw them in jail and pay for their upkeep?  Or do you think they would just shoot them?  Just shoot people standing their not fighting back?  If so, I would love to see your evidence that such would be the case.  Given that you don&#039;t have any, no they would not be able to do anything.  The would just quit having jobs and would have to go find real work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, really, what do you think would happen if 50% of the population stopped obeying the government?  Just stopped paying their fines and taxes and stopped obeying their stupid rules?  You think the other half would, what, throw them in jail and pay for their upkeep?  Or do you think they would just shoot them?  Just shoot people standing their not fighting back?  If so, I would love to see your evidence that such would be the case.  Given that you don&#8217;t have any, no they would not be able to do anything.  The would just quit having jobs and would have to go find real work.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ken Hagler</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8531</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hagler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8531</guid>
		<description>I should probably also point out that under existing current laws, it&#039;s perfectly legal for cops to steal and rob people. It&#039;s called &quot;asset forfeiture.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should probably also point out that under existing current laws, it&#8217;s perfectly legal for cops to steal and rob people. It&#8217;s called &#8220;asset forfeiture.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ken Hagler</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8526</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hagler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8526</guid>
		<description>What army is going to put them in jail? The city I live in, Los Angeles, has the equivalent of a light infantry division occupying it, and that&#039;s just the LAPD--not even counting the County Sheriffs and all the cops from the many adjacent cities. You try to arrest a cop for committing a crime and his hundreds of friends will show up and kill you. (And speaking of arms of the government, if we get rid of taxes the much more heavily armed &quot;official&quot; military would still be out there too.)

The reality of life _now_ is that the government&#039;s power comes from saying &quot;give us your money or we&#039;ll kill you&quot; and having the firepower to back it up. All that ending taxation would do is remove the glove--the iron fist inside would still be there. Actually being free of those people would take a major war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What army is going to put them in jail? The city I live in, Los Angeles, has the equivalent of a light infantry division occupying it, and that&#8217;s just the LAPD&#8211;not even counting the County Sheriffs and all the cops from the many adjacent cities. You try to arrest a cop for committing a crime and his hundreds of friends will show up and kill you. (And speaking of arms of the government, if we get rid of taxes the much more heavily armed &#8220;official&#8221; military would still be out there too.)</p>
<p>The reality of life _now_ is that the government&#8217;s power comes from saying &#8220;give us your money or we&#8217;ll kill you&#8221; and having the firepower to back it up. All that ending taxation would do is remove the glove&#8211;the iron fist inside would still be there. Actually being free of those people would take a major war.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jenn</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8513</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8513</guid>
		<description>Unless those heavily armed thugs are completely stupid, they would be forced to get an honest job, or starve.  If they stole or robbed people to get by, then they would go to jail like everyone else, because they are no longer tax-funded, no longer are an arm of the government, and must abide by the same laws as everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless those heavily armed thugs are completely stupid, they would be forced to get an honest job, or starve.  If they stole or robbed people to get by, then they would go to jail like everyone else, because they are no longer tax-funded, no longer are an arm of the government, and must abide by the same laws as everyone else.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jenn</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8512</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8512</guid>
		<description>Why would the heavily armed thugs continue to work in their profession if they were not getting paid?  If taxes no longer paid for police, there would cease to be &quot;police.&quot;  They would become random, ordinary citizens wearing funny clothes and having a gun, and would be subject to the same laws against theft and violence as everyone else.

A similar example would be if drugs became legal.  Sure, the gangs will still be armed, but they will be put out of business.  The very foundation upon which they are formed and based will be gone, and they will cease to have a purpose, and cease to make profit the way they used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would the heavily armed thugs continue to work in their profession if they were not getting paid?  If taxes no longer paid for police, there would cease to be &#8220;police.&#8221;  They would become random, ordinary citizens wearing funny clothes and having a gun, and would be subject to the same laws against theft and violence as everyone else.</p>
<p>A similar example would be if drugs became legal.  Sure, the gangs will still be armed, but they will be put out of business.  The very foundation upon which they are formed and based will be gone, and they will cease to have a purpose, and cease to make profit the way they used to.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dragonator</title>
		<link>http://www.copblock.org/668/cop-lies-man-spends-five-years-in-prison/#comment-8508</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragonator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.copblock.org/?p=668#comment-8508</guid>
		<description>He should run for mayor and fire all the cops.

&quot;10% of cops are honest, 10% are dishonest, and 80% wish they were honest.&quot;
-Detective Frank Serpico, NYPD, testimony to Knapp Commission 

COP. 
2. to steal; filch.
3. to buy (narcotics). 
4. cop out, a. to avoid one&#039;s responsibility, the fulfillment of a promise, etc.; renege; back out. 
b. cop a plea. 
5. cop a plea, a. to plead guilty or confess in return for receiving a lighter sentence. 
b. to plead guilty to a lesser charge as a means of bargaining one&#039;s way out of standing trial for a more serious charge; plea-bargain. 
-Dictionary.com, Random House Unabridged Dictionary 2006</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should run for mayor and fire all the cops.</p>
<p>&#8220;10% of cops are honest, 10% are dishonest, and 80% wish they were honest.&#8221;<br />
-Detective Frank Serpico, NYPD, testimony to Knapp Commission </p>
<p>COP.<br />
2. to steal; filch.<br />
3. to buy (narcotics).<br />
4. cop out, a. to avoid one&#8217;s responsibility, the fulfillment of a promise, etc.; renege; back out.<br />
b. cop a plea.<br />
5. cop a plea, a. to plead guilty or confess in return for receiving a lighter sentence.<br />
b. to plead guilty to a lesser charge as a means of bargaining one&#8217;s way out of standing trial for a more serious charge; plea-bargain.<br />
-Dictionary.com, Random House Unabridged Dictionary 2006</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Page Caching using disk: basic
Database Caching 2/6 queries in 0.003 seconds using disk: basic
Object Caching 604/608 objects using disk: basic

Served from: www.copblock.org @ 2012-02-04 05:10:59 -->
