The “State” Cannot Be Victimized

Back in 2013 a Leslie Collier left a note on my vehicle. No, it wasn’t a love note – far from it. It was a ransom note.

Collier claimed that I owed her employer some money. Why? That’s an excellent question. Collier and her cronies were most interested in my recognition of their claimed dominion.

I certainly didn’t hurt Collier or anyone else, nor did I damage the property of another. So I communicated as much in a motion to dismiss – “When there is no victim, there is no crime. Thus, no one to make whole.”

Check out the statist logic from the legaland lackey who responded:

  • The State objects
  • There is zero legal basis therefore to grant the dismissal

Motion to Dismiss City of Keene Pete Eyre Cop Block

Certainly it’s not surprising that state agents will side with other state agents. They have to maintain their perceived authority, after all.

Still, I stated with a clear conscience, that I would not pay their ransom.

So what happened?

I didn’t cede to the demands of these would-be masters. I was sent paperwork that said my “license/operating privilege” was suspended indefinitely. Oh well. I can say with confidence that my driving skills didn’t decrease one iota.

But later in the year I received paperwork that said my license had been reinstated. I wasn’t sure of the reason but guessed that the negative publicity generated caused those who purport to rule me to backpeddle.

I found out a year later that a friend had paid the ransom. I told him I felt like Thoreau, who on principle didn’t pay a ransom and was caged, while he had acted akin to Emerson, who paid the ransom.

Why reminisce about this rather trivial incident?

To make plain the fact that the “State” cannot be victimized. To encourage you to act freely so long as you don’t infringe on the equal liberty of another.

An action that doesn’t harm another is at most a vice, hardly something that gives another person or group the right to extract your wealth or cage your person. Yet millions are now caged because “the state” claimed to be victimized.

Consider the millions now caged for the victimless act of possessing or selling a certain substance. Or how “the state” claims victim status to steal money and property under the guise of asset forfeiture. And certainly, “the state” plays the victim card most when its actors perceive someone is undermining their authority, as seen in the treatment of peaceful Copblockers and the sham legaland attacks on folks like Ross Ulbricht.

Stand up for what you know is right. You don’t need to consult a book or an “expert” in legalese. Trust yourself and act accordingly then the great fiction of “the state” will diminish.

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Pete Eyre

Pete Eyre is co-founder of CopBlock.org. As an advocate of peaceful, consensual interactions, he seeks to inject a message of complete liberty and self-government into the conversation of police accountability.

Eyre went to undergrad and grad school for law enforcement, then spent time in DC as an intern at the Cato Institute, a Koch Fellow at the Drug Policy Alliance, Directer of Campus Outreach at the Institute for Humane Studies, Crasher-in-Chief at Bureaucrash, and as a contractor for the Future of Freedom Foundation.

In 2009 he left the belly of the beast and hit the road with Motorhome Diaries and later co-founded Liberty On Tour. He spent time in New Hampshire home, and was involved with Free Keene, the Free State Project and The Daily Decrypt.

  • Shawn

    I noticed you failed to provide that stated offense. How can you ask anyone to side with you, without us knowing what you’re accused of?

    Most likely, you either failed to pay your share for using the roads, or did drive in a manner that places others at risk.

  • Shawn

    Found what it is. Did you bother to examine why street parking at night is banned?
    Snow removal crews can’t do their job if you are in the way. You are an obstruction on an icy road. Others who live in cold weather states can provide more issues. The victim is your fellow drivers.

    This isn’t about cops. This is about you not wanting to be a part of society, but want to use society’s resources.

  • Move your vehicle

    This is anti-social behaviour and people like this are lucky the state punishes you and not your neighbors. Try that stunt in an HOA or private co-op road and you would be begging for the simplicity of a city ticket.

    We pay for snow removal through property taxes and road taxes. I insist that my roads are cleared promptly and properly. When they are not the government answers to me.

    The clearing can not be done when people do not abide by the moral,.ethical, legal and common sense standards of moving your freaking vehicle during plowing and deicing times.

    It is a small social sacrifice we all make so that the roads can be cleared and safe.
    Personally I believe that rather than give these people a standard parking ticket they should be required to pay for two complete snow removals to that street.

    Everyone must live by social contraints.

  • ^^^ Not meant for Shawn :-)

    The post above is meant for the author of the article and not for Shawn.

  • Anti Social

    And before anyone comes by and says “It wasn’t snowing that night”, IT DOESN’T MATTER.
    Snow removal includes deicing, de gritting, re gritting and sometimes sweeping. They also might need access to curb drains for proper melt run off.

    It doesn’t have to be snowing for teams to need access to the roads to keep them safe.
    This doesn’t even take into consideration the quick 3am snowfall you didn’t know was coming.

    Society would benefit from every one being less selfish and closed minded. That includes the government, police AND citizens.

  • mobooz

    Well-written, both you and Shawn. It’s nice to see some prosocial comments on here once in a while. :)

  • Shawn

    The issue is that the issue of cops is separate from this anti-law rant. I have a lot of issues with how cops want to behave. But I’m not opposed to most of our law and order stuff, only the excesses like misuse of SWAT, forfeiture and all of that. One can support society and laws, without also having a permissive attitude toward cops. They aren’t exclusive concepts.
    I fully oppose drugs too. But I don’t accept an anything goes attitude to fighting drugs.

    This rant is an example of another article

    http://www.copblock.org/130299/why-dont-you-ever-report-on-the-criminals/

    Well, disagreements about our government system and laws is also a separate issue. This article has no reason to be on copblock. This has nothing to do with cops, or their abuses. This article is political, and belongs in such a discussion.

    And he is dead wrong. He is causing harm. Just because he can’t see it doesn’t change that. How would he like to be blocked from going to work because 20 assholes prevented the road crews from dealing with snow and ice? Would he not then consider himself a victim of the actions of those violating the parking laws?

  • Thank You

    Well said.
    I too can hold both views just fine just as you do.
    Like you said they are separate issues and this has little to do with police misconduct if any.

  • mioman

    just take a cordless sawsall with a new blade and saw the fricking sign down below the dirt one night.

  • JC

    You are a fucking idiot Pete. I suggest you look up what crimes mean. The victims you create are the people of the state, city, ect… You are a true idiot. When you were arrested in San Francisco you paid the fine for jaywalking. So basically you are lying again.

  • steve

    Talk about fucking idiots, while your licking corn off assholes for pleasure. Pete is trying to make sense of what is happening to the public and I thought he made good sense whether or not you believe doesn’t matter because no one here takes you serious.

  • mobooz

    Sorry, I wasn’t trying to denigrate you or your ideas, I was just getting tired of all the “gummint can’t tell me what to do, kill all cops, [insert ignorant JC post here]” mantra in the comments sections is all. :)

  • Midnight

    The pigs are just shakedown artists hiding behind a badge…

  • Shawn

    I didn’t see you denigrating. And to be fair to JC, who is an ass, that is certain other people who go “Gummint can’t tell me yada yada yada.”

    But there are those who think it has to be one side or the other, to extremes. Pete, and T, two sides of the same turd.

  • Shawn

    It has zero to do with police. The cops don’t get to write the law, and it would be wrong for them to try.

    If pete doesn’t like a law, go to the citizenry and lawmakers. Good luck, since this law makes sense for keeping roads usable in the winter.

  • Shawn

    Go for it! Let us know how it works out. FYI, that’s not a mere ticket offense. That’s time with bubba.

    Pete is being an idiot, refusing to understand why it is the law. Namely, if everyone blocks road maintenance, how are they going to keep roads passable? Or do you think it’s a great idea to shut everything down for a few months?

  • RAD

    Extortion is an antisocial activity.

  • RAD

    Extortionate predatory lawsuits are an antisocial behavior.

  • RAD

    This is just another example of the cop cult using the scriptures of the government religion as an excuse to justify their extortion schemes such as predatory lawsuits and the like.

  • RAD

    The scriptural “laws” of the government cult aren’t the issue. If government believers want to believe in the legalistic fables of the government that’s up to them. The issue is the extortion and the fraud associated with the predatory lawsuit extortion scheme.

  • RaymondbyEllis

    I hate snow (I’ve lived in Phoenix for 45 years, it’s a clue). I would follow every rule to get that crap removed. But that’s just my hatred of snow.

    But more importantly, I realize that without snow removal (and all that comes under that phrase) no one can go to work and no one can shop for food. Even a voluntaryist society would say “damn it, get your cars off the road”. Ideology, all ideology, the gift that keeps on giving stupid. (Conservative Republicans, Leftist Democrats, Left/Right Libertarians, yada yada).

  • Common Sense

    Sorry Pete, laws, statutes, ordinances all apply to you too.

  • Defusing the agenda

    under the color of law, statutes, or ordinance.. they violated title 18… this is not a small issue as it opens the door to much larger ones… jurisdiction can be challenged at any time. so what you need to do regardless of the outcome is challenge the jurisdiction in federal court… they can not show subject matter jurisdiction without a victim… so there you have it. no valid complaint from a victim supported by an affidavit means they acted without cause… just go sue them time effort and get your friends money back….

  • Defusing the agenda

    dont forget to demand a jury trial. this is perfect for jury nullification :)

  • Shawn

    How do you suggest dealing with snow and ice? Just let it build up until roads are impassable? Tell us why your neighbors should allow that?

    In a lawful world, this gets a ticket. In an unlawful world, we flip your car off the road and shoot you if you dare object. If there are no rules controlling you, then there are no rules protecting you.

  • JC

    You seem to know a lot about licking corn from assholes. Is there something you want to tell everyone? Pete was nailed for parking on a snow emergency route during the night. He got a ticket for it. It was his own fault and he lost in court. His own video showed he was lying. I suggest you go fishing or something and clean out your asshole with your mother’s tongue.

  • RAD

    You know he was obstructing the snow removal? What does this have to do with snow removal if the snow removal team wasn’t even there that night? If he wasn’t obstructing them, then what is the damages or injury? If there is no damages or injury, then you are left with the conclusion that the lawsuit is predatory in nature. It’s not about righting wrongs or making an injured party whole, it’s about using the legal system for financial predation. Legalistic extortion. The reality is words on paper don’t in themselves control or protect anyone. The rule of law is a myth.

  • Shawn

    Idiot, snow and ice isn’t trash removal on Wednesday and Friday. There is no way to predict when the crews will have to clear the streets.

    “The rule of law is a myth.”
    No, it is society’s choice for how to control the way our actions affect each other. Blocking snow and ice removal for instance.
    Now we only have a few options.
    We can let you shut down road maintenance. We both know that isn’t going to happen.
    Our other choice is punishment. We can ticket. We can tow. We can jail you. We can kill you.

    You’re nuts if you think your neighbors or I are going to let you treat us any way you like and just eat your shit. We will respond with either law, or pitchforks. We aren’t changing the world to suit your nutdom. Why should we?

  • Pete chose

    This isn’t extortion. Pete CHOSE to live where society has decided the best means for winter road safety is to restrict the parking. He can go live on a street that doesn’t have these societal constraints on him and then he can pay for his own removal and deal privately with everyone who won’t move so he can do what needs to be done to maintain the road.

    I doubt he would like that very much though when he has a neighbor he can’t compell to move. But it is his CHOICE.

    The only way this could.be seen as police misconduct is if they singled him out.
    BUT IN NO WAY can he claim this is a victimless crime. Everyone who uses.that road and all.taxpayers are victims when people.won’t move their vehicles for road MAINTENANCE.

  • t

    Ha. No federal court will take it.

  • Mike TheVet

    No, but your mom will.

    Heyooooooooooo.

  • t

    Wow. That may be the most adult cmment you’ve ever made.

  • t

    Shawn:
    But that’s just it. He can’t go to the citizens. They reject him

    Look at the so called “free stater” project.
    Those douchebags can’t even
    Muster enough support to get a voice on the council in a small city like Keene NH.
    Heck….even the stoner college kids in that town hate the CBers.

    Pete, Ademo and the CBer are blights on society.
    They take and give nothing back.

    This incident is a perfect example. Pete cares nothing for his fellow man. He is screaming the “only my rights matter” theme at the top of his lungs.

  • David

    when any man asks the state for a license to drive, that action commands that the one doing so has given POWER OF ATTORNEY to the state, without any limitation. this is why they can do what they do. YOU contracted away all other rights by asking permission to do a thing which one has the right to do LAWFULLY.

  • David

    a state is merely a fiction. a commonwealth is aswell. everything man made is merely a fiction such as all words and definitions. just because a fictional ghost has a name casper doesn’t make it any more real.

    however when YOU accept the legal person (birth registration) and use it for acquiring benefits, your a traitor to the NATION, and thus treated as such by the fiction posing as…

    I am not giving any LEGAL advice, just telling you where your all going wrong.

    Fuck the United States Incorporated. they mean nothing but to cause you harm.

  • David

    they created the birth certificate inorder to monetize you as credit for the debt. what you need to do is lein it inorder to block them from any claim presented against it.

    a warrant is nothing more than a lein, and yours becomes more superior to theirs.
    if they want you, they have to pay off the lein. mine is 320 billion.

    and you now what i’m going to do with that if they gave it to me.

  • Mike TheVet

    “adult comment”?

    Lol, you are a strange one, ‘t.’ I’ll give ya that….

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