LEO Affairs Posts “Survival Guide to Dealing with Annoying CopBlockers”

PoliceStateShirtTonight I got a message from Joshua, a CopBlock Network Contributor and one of the editors here at CopBlock.org, in his message was a link to the article below from the website LEO Affairs. No, this isn’t a place where Law Enforcement Officers (LEO’s) go to have affairs, I guess that’s a common misconception, but rather a place where LEO’s discuss their tactics, tips and ideas about their jobs. Basically what we do here except they pat themselves on the butt more and are always right.

In the post at LEOAffairs.com they embedded videos with each point, I’ve decided to link to them in order to save space for my thoughts and so that this blog isn’t a mile long. You can see their original post here. (LA = LEO Affairs)

Now, before we start, recognize two things as you read this post. First, there is no author or alias that this post was written under. The person who wrote it wouldn’t even put ‘A’ name on it. Typical for cops on duty, but I didn’t know their shame extended into their advice for their colleagues as well. Second, you’ll notice that though the title of the post mentions CopBlockers none of the five points mention the one thing CopBlockers advocate, or do, the most; filming the police. So, I guess the LEOs are still working out how to handle that. What you will find is a bunch of BS blanket statements and lip service. Meaning the real value here is that you get another glimpse into the small mind of a LEO.

Let’s get started.

1: Surviving a “You Work For Me” suspect

Look, we all know that tax dollars pay for a wide-range of public services, including the police forces that protect us all. While it’s annoying to hear “My taxes pay your salary” over and over again, it’s best to go about the business at hand rather than thank the citizen for their generous salary contributions. Oh, and if you can generate a little extra “revenue” by writing a ticket, then poetic justice can be served.

(LA VIDEO)

This statement reflects one of the biggest problems with government services today. They have no care or concern for those who actually pay their salaries. What other business, aside from the government’s, would ever provide this advice to their colleagues? Go ahead. Try to think of another job where ignoring, blowing off, or “rather than thank the” customer – because that’s what a citizen is – is part of the chosen method of customer service and I’ll show you a business that’s going to fail.

The police, and many people, are unable to think outside the government provided box. Police officers seem to have trouble accepting the idea that they can create their own protection businesses and ‘citizens’ seem to forget that they don’t have to rely on government to provide it. One way this could work is if every officer did whatever part of protection they felt they do best. Some cops are better at recovering stolen goods, others at solving violent crimes and some at crime prevention (security cameras, firearms training and such). Yet, regardless of their skillset(s) they only have one person to work for and they normally require them to do a number of other things they either don’t care to or aren’t good at. Why not just skip that by starting a business providing the services you are good at?

If an LEO chose this route they wouldn’t have to worry about the government forcing you to pull people over for burnt out headlights, ruining someone’s life for smoking a plant or doing endless paperwork because of some new department policy that was federally mandated. On top of all that goodness, you’d probably make more money (depending how ambitious you are) and be a lot safer than you are today. Don’t believe me? Give it a try, quit your job and come tell me why I should pay for your services.

This really shouldn’t be that hard. I’m sure most of you have a skill you could charge 50 people for and at $50 per person you’d be making $2,500 per month. That’s $30,000 per year and if your service was actually good you may even have 100 customers (or more). Something to think about if you’re tired of the shady situations your (bankrupt) employer keeps putting you in – you do realize that the government is broke right?

2: Surviving an amateur lawyer or “sovereign citizen” citizen
It seems that every suspect police detain either already has, or is working toward, a degree in constitutional law. When confronted with these amateur lawyers, it’s usually best to let them show off their shaky and/or crazy view of the law before calmly explaining that no matter what they think, they’re subjected to the same laws that everyone else is.

(LA VIDEO)

The anonymous author’s advice is to let them rant and then tell them they’re subjected to the same laws as everyone else, really? How about looking up the law, articulating it clearly or calling a supervisor for clarification? Furthermore, in my experience, since the post is targeted at “CopBlockers” I think my opinion qualifies, that CopBlockers do know more about the law than many police officers. Especially when it comes to filming in public space, when to show ID and the right to bear arms. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen police officers demand ID from someone when they had no legal ground to do so. I’ve personally been arrested for filming the police when I shouldn’t have been and (though we’ll touch on this in the next point) I’ve seen a number of open carry videos where officers were schooled in one’s rights by ‘citizens.’ In fact, just the other day Brian Sumner posted the video below showing two Police Cadets who were unable to state the 4th or 6th amendments. How troubling (or telling) is that? You’d think the police would have a better understanding of the law, but they don’t. They think you have to do whatever they say because, “they’re a police officer.”

3: Surviving an open carry cop blocker

Cop Blockers are becoming more common, and they seem to have a single purpose: to bait officers into getting angry, upset, or making mistakes. When dealing with these cop blockers, especially when they’re baiting you by openly carrying a weapon, calmly explain how doing your job is not in violation of the law, exactly how reasonable suspicion works, and how you will treat them fairly provided that they too are acting in accordance with the law.

(LA VIDEO)

banner-square storeThe author did get one thing right here, that CopBlockers are becoming more and more common. Before I touch on the rest of the statement, I think it’s worth mentioning why there are more and more CopBlockers. The answer is cops. I can’t make enough videos or write enough blog posts to keep up with the amount of people you guys turn on to CopBlock each day. The endless traffic stops, warrantless searches and ruining of people’s lives at the drop of a hat keeps the CopBlock.org/submit tab busy, the contact page buzzing and the CopBlock offshoots growing. Seriously, I feel like pulling a gun manufacturers of America and giving you guys the CopBlock Recruiter of the year award, just like gun manufacturers do for presidents when their stupid laws create a drive in the gun market.

Still, you are mistaken that we’re trying to bait you. I mean maybe some are, because I can’t speak for everyone. Yet, I know that’s not my goal. What I think you call baiting I would call exercising of a right. You think because a CopBlocker comes to your police station with some chalk that they’re trying to bait you. In reality they’re probably trying to tell you something else, like stop killing people or that “Badges Don’t Grant Extra Rights.”  Of course you don’t see it this way and we already covered why in point #1. You just don’t care.

BTW, openly carrying a gun in public isn’t how reasonable suspicion works. So when you’re “just doing your job” by harassing someone based on them open carrying, it is actually a violation of the law.

4: When being calm, polite, and professional fails, there’s always tasing or OC use

Sometimes, no matter how well an officer handles a situation, the suspect simply remains out of control and won’t submit to rational requests. It’s times like these that less-lethal means, such as tasers or OC, can not only subdue the suspect, but save lives in the process.

While we’re trying to stay humorous with these videos, each of these issues are serious. Unfortunately, 126 officers were killed in the line of duty in 2014, which represents a 24% increase over the previous year according to NPR.

Above all else, stay safe out there.

(LA VIDEO)

Sometimes no matter how well a CopBlocker handles a situation, cops can quickly escalate a situation and won’t listen to rational requests like, “Am I being detained.” No seriously, this seems all hunky dory on the screen, but in the academy the advice is much more direct. Make sure you go home, use any means necessary or if you think it’s you or them, make sure it’s them. Add this to the assistance provided by the thin blue line and the advantage officers have after using force on a suspect. Police are rarely questioned, commonly sent home and given time to ‘collect’ their thoughts on the matter, while anyone outside of a LEO is interrogated for hours, locked in a cage and put on trial. Normally, such actions ruin the lives of the accused regardless of the outcome. So when the author suggests using less-lethal means, I get a sick feeling in my stomach, because some of those means are actually lethal. Or they’ll be discarded quickly for more lethal options.

The author then likes to throw out how many officers have been killed in the line of duty in 2014, stating that the 126 dead cops is a 24% increase. They fail to mention that most officer fatalities are due to car accidents. Which is another benefit to working for yourself, or for a business, you’d either drive there in a reasonable manner or you’d already be there. You wouldn’t have that risk high any longer. Plus, the fact that the number of police killed in the line of duty was historically low, by far, the year before is never mentioned. The reason that isn’t mentioned is because then people might understand that 2014 was still one of the safest years ever for cops. The increase from the previous year says a whole lot more about how safe 2013 was for LEO’s than it does about 2014 being dangerous. The author also fails to mention that in 2014 over 1,000 people were killed by police, according to KilledbyPolice.net, but they were probably all bad, right?

5: Surviving a citizen taking the law into their own hands

For the most part, citizens who work security are looking to make life safer and easier for those around them, but once in a while, the illusion of power goes straight to their heads. When dealing with one of these issues, it’s best to remind them who the real police officer is in the situation.

(LA VIDEO)

Wait, did the author just say that “the illusion of power goes straight to their heads?” The author must have been talking about cops, right? No? Well I’ll be damned because they most certainly should have been. I don’t know how many links or video clips people want but we could go all day showing video, after video of officers saying, “Do this because I said so.” Security guards can get overly anal about the rules but there’s a BIG difference between a security guard and a cop. We’re not forced to pay for the security guards and they’re hired, and held accountable, by the property owner. Therefore, they would actually have more power, IMO, than a police officer when asking me to do something on the property they work on/at – even if the rule is ridiculous.

That concludes the five worthless tips to deal with CopBlockers that doesn’t even mention what to do when being recorded by one. Not that I’d expect a cop to actually focus on the most important aspect to engaging cops or CopBlocking. I think it’s fair to say that if a cop follows these steps when facing a CopBlocker they’re probably going to end up a YouTube star and for that, I thank the unknown Copsucker who wrote this post. You just gave thousands of cops bad information that will turn up the hits and views of the content CopBlockers will create after their encounter. Thank you.

Want to learn more about CopBlocking? Check out the CopBlocking 101 and 5 Must Do’s for Every Police Encounter videos below.

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  • t

    Wow.
    And you wonder why cops don’t post articles of this site.

    This hatchet job is similar to when (I think this was his handle) PSOSgt wrote a good article and posted it.

    Everything you are making fun of…is right. Nothing he wrote was wrong in any way…its clea it stings you so.

  • I want to strangle

    They all piss me off but this one just makes me want to strangle a teacher and a cop.

    >>>>>>5: Surviving a citizen taking the law into their own hands

    How is it that the vast majority of citizens don’t understand that police have no authority that every other citizen doesn’t already have?

    All police have been granted authority to act on behalf of another citizen.

    They don’t have special powers- in fact legally speaking a non LEO citizen has more leeway than does LEO with the one major exception of qualified immunity. And they only have that because it helps the government not because it makes them special and better at crime stopping.

    For Feck Sake wise up people and teach your children that police are not and never were the only people responsible for crime investigation or prevention.

    What exactly do we teach in school if not this fundamental piece of history ,government and law?

  • Wow

    Cops don’t post articles on this site because they are cowards who know they can’t formulate a coherent argument for their illegal actions nor a justification for their paycheck.

    Most written by the cop was too ambiguous to be of much use for even the most basic of discussions but you are free to think his nothing wasn’t wrong.

    It must make you want to hit something to be so impotent. Use your taser or CO.

  • mobooz

    What happened to Josh Hotchkin? His writing is utter shit, but he was putting out about 1/3 of the articles on copblock for a while there. Another defector?

  • Never Notice

    I never pay any attention to who writes what. I would prefer this site to be more of a clearinghouse for articles anyway than a mouthpiece for a few such as Ademo.

    But its all we got that isn’t a locked down site. There are a few who post here that do post on the non-public sites. I believe Josh might be one.

  • Shawn

    Let me make it simple for cops. Loose the ego tripping nonsense. You’d be amazed at how much trouble it saves you, especially if you’re prone to letting offended pride convince you to do something illegal in front of a camera.

  • Shawn

    “While we’re trying to stay humorous with these videos, each of these
    issues are serious. Unfortunately, 126 officers were killed in the line
    of duty in 2014, which represents a 24% increase over the previous year
    according to NPR.

    Above all else, stay safe out there.”

    Right, first it isn’t above all else. That attitude is what ‘justifies’ such ridiculous events like the newspaper ladies shooting incident. Above all else, protect the lives of the innocent. That is what you are paid for, and what you volunteered for. If the risk of that is too great, then clearly you’re in the wrong profession.

    As for the deaths? How about a break down of causes of death? How many were the results of violent crime, accidents from carelessness with firearms, and car wrecks? How many died of a heart attack on the job?
    Cops love to throw these numbers out as scare tactics and fear mongering when the numbers simply don’t even put them in the top ten dangerous professions. And that top ten still go out and do their jobs, accepting their risks without funeral parades or the endless woe is me nonsense cops give.

  • DeadPigGoodPig

    So let me see if I got this straight:

    1. If a citizen reminds you who your boss is, then retaliate by coercing money away from said citizen.

    2. Stay ignorant of the law.

    3. If you see a citizen open carry legally, harass them as much as possible.

    4. If you are being disrespected, use whatever force is necessary to reclaim your imaginary respect.

    5. If you think your job is in jeopardy, show as much as arrogant as possible.

    And people wonder why I talk about killing pigs as much as I do. The only good pig is a dead pig that has been pulled apart with a common fork.

  • t

    Wow:
    So…to you..it was too ambiguous. What specifics would you like when there isn’t a specific incident being discussed? Wow is right.

  • Common Sense

    He probably didn’t get paid.

  • Common Sense

    The liability is a large part of it. Acting as a private citizen, you bear it all. I would say for you re read the fine print in your homeowner’s insurance policy also.

    Also remember, QI is something that must be requested. Only a court can grant it and its not simply granted out of hand.

  • Not ademo

    Hey at least these cop blockers will sign there work right t ;)

  • vegas jack

    Have you been drinking again?

  • Josh Martin

    I hate cops more than anyone, but this was clearly meant to be funny. Stick to the real abuse stories. Crying wolf doesnt help anyone.

  • themindbox

    They don’t mention,….. don’t have anything shiny in your hands or the citizen may legally exterminate you…..

  • JC

    What is the point of this article? Copblockers are like little gnats that hang around on street corners harassing anyone who disagrees with them. This is your typical ridiculous rant by Ademo

  • Megatron

    and this is your typical copsucking answer

  • JC

    +1

  • commenterabovemeisanidiot

    Your like VD coming back around every couple years.

  • D Laurier Beaulieu

    What the fuck is this bullshit?
    They forgot:
    (#6, How to survive when an unarmed, and peaceful citizen comes forward to report a pedophile ring.
    Powerful pedophiles are a protected group, who must NEVER be held to scrutiny or accountability.
    If a survivor of such a ring dared to speak out, silence him or her with savage violence.)

  • Pw4x3r

    Pretty amazingly pathetic, publicly viewable insight into the extreme ignorance of LEOs and their associates.

  • CopApologistsSuck

    citizens are allowed to take the law into their own hands as long as their cop apologists assisting a police officer in catching or killing some suspect

  • mobooz shits on himself

    He had enough at staring at your ugly face

  • Never Trust The Police

    It’s no wonder people kill cops

  • Never Trust The Police

    You know whenever a cop does not get held accountable they laugh their asses off with other LEO’S because they killed some unarmed man or woman and then brag about it, A Cop can get away with shooting helpless kittens too without regretting it which they have and without regretting shooting an unarmed person which they have Look at all the laughs inside NYPD after killing Eric Garner they thought the words i can’t breathe was fucking funny… Cops kill hostages without regretting it too…

  • DeadPigGoodPig

    It’s time to put the fork to the pork.

  • DeadPigGoodPig

    These are the pigs words. And this shows exactly why the only good pig is a dead pig. They all should be slaughtered without the slightest care. Their parents should be slaughtered as well as their brothers and sisters. Put an end to the genetic line where they came from. Oh, and make sure to set their fucking kids on fire.

  • DeadPigGoodPig

    Actually this shows the mindset of those that should be set on fire.

  • DeadPigGoodPig

    Are you really stupid enough to ask that question? Actually, what am I thinking? Of course you’re that fucking stupid.

  • t

    Na:
    I post only as t. That is a s real,as “Voluntarist” or “Freeman”.

    Yuck…what is that smell? It’s that stinky pile you just stepped in.

  • Numbers

    Quick break down of 2014 Police deaths per Memorial.
    I did not click on every story to read exact circumstances but did go by their own description of type of death.

    Gunfire (not accidental may include suicides) – 49
    Vehicular Pursuit answering call -4
    Assaults of all kind – 12
    Fire -1
    Drowning -1
    Medical some loosely related to duty injury -3

    The following are accidental or Medical not related to duty.
    9/11 Illnesses (yes, an actual description 13 years later) -6
    Heart Attack -19
    Accidental gunfire not crime related because even friendly fire during response to a crime is listed as regular gunfire above. – 2
    Accidentally struck by vehicle -5
    Automobile or motorcycle accident not related to pursuit -31

    20 K9 deaths included in yearly total including those who died from heat stroke.

    That is 70 killed as result of a crime even including some of the dodgy medical and the drowning one.

  • Patrick H.

    Truth is under our Constitution each man is a King. Each woman a Queen, chirdren boys each a Prince, girls each a Princess. This is the only way we can All be equal and have no Nobility, or servant classes with lesser Rights. Even a police officer, is a King/Queen who for money/ Gold takes on the Role of a servant o serve other Kings and Queens. It used to be looked on back in the day that it was shamful to be a servant for money. That attitude has fliped. Some beleive that they have become Noble and that makes their Masters of the peasant class. As more poeple become more aware equality will return. Imagine a King serving another King, thinking He’s above him in stature.

  • Patrick H.

    QI?

  • Michael Sievers

    Oh man. JC cop dick sucker. He likes to swallow their load!!

  • Travis Worthington

    #WINGSONPIGS#

  • JC

    You see to know a lot about sucking dicks and swallowing. That is quite disturbing. You must have been abused as a child by your Uncle bad touch. Go get help.

  • Peacefulstreets Lewiscounty

    Great write-up Joshua,

    The attitudes, lack of knowledge, and content omissions of the original ‘anonymous’ post are surprising in anyway. We already knew that LEOs watch and discuss our activities. Though we are concerned with the mis-information spreading to more badges. It’s a toss up if this will fuel more bad behavior than the indoctrination already received during their training.

    The assumptions depicted are both amusing an alarming, as is the omission of how to deal with the camera. It’s clear that being recorded is still the biggest concern of many LEOs.

    Keep recording, use multiple devices, take friends.

  • Peacefulstreets Lewiscounty

    While we admire your dedication, you’re not even a good troll. At least T trys to wrap his statements with a semblance of logic. Are you capable of anything besides ad hominum attack?

  • RAD

    “Above all else, protect the lives of the innocent. That is what you are paid for, and what you volunteered for.”

    A splendid Utopian liberal fantasy, but no.