The video above was recorded by Gavin Seim, the self proclaimed Liberty Speaker, whose work in spreading the message of freedom has been featured here at CopBlock,org a number of times. The video was recorded in 2014 but Gavin just reuploaded this version, which is longer with better audio, just today. Before I give my thoughts on the video here’s what Gavin had to say in the post from 2014 at his website, CallMeGav.com:
So I made this traffic stop today…
It’s very off the cuff. I had about 60 seconds from the moment I thought “NOW is the time to address this” and flagged the officer over, to the moment I was engaging him.
In Washington we have unmarked police vehicles impersonating citizens. If you think it’s not a serious issue, try asking those that have been raped or lost loves ones because of unmarked cars. It’s already illegal in WA for public vehicles to be unmarked, unless designated for “special undercover or confidential investigative purposes.” I’ll post the legal details and debunk the myths at the bottom. It’s also worth noting that this was not the first the Grant County Sheriff’s office heard about this. I called about a month ago and filed an official report addressing my concern with unmarked cars in the area.
Tolerating lawlessness does not fix anything and at this stage of our decline, neither does writing a letter. I get called every possible name for taking up the liberty conversation. Sadly many Americans hate America and hate liberty. But as in my courthouse incident, standing firm and principled works. If I’m dealing with a disrespectful tyrant, I put them in their place. It’s a matter of safety to never allow a bully to feel they can intimidate you. We can stand up them. — Thankfully that was not a problem today because Deputy Canfield handled this well. I informed him of the law and and he now has the opportunity to fix it. — I want officers to treat people with respect and I in turn do the same. Disrespectful public servants should never be tolerated, respectful ones should be commended.
Ordinary looking unmarked police cars slink around and entrap, so they can write folks up (read tax) for petty faults. That’s not protecting. As my brother Blake says, “serve and protect, not harass and collect.” — But this is also a major safety issue. Unmarked vehicles are a ripe opportunity for confusion in a citizens reaction and for criminals to impersonate lawful authority to get people to stop.
People have been raped and even murdered because of this, so the law is good sense. In WA, all municipal and police vehicles must be marked UNLESS they fall under special exemptions. These exemptions do not apply to patrol vehicles. There’s even a past WA State court precedent where a man fled police and his felony charge was thrown out because the pursuing vehicle was not legal. Pretty interesting. There have also been traffic infractions thrown out because the officers car was not marked.
If you’re stopped by an unmarked vehicle I would not suggest running. But don’t pull over on a dark lonely street either. Indicate to the officer that you see him, drive to an occupied well lit area like a gas station. You can also dial 911 and confirm if the officer at your location is legit. And if you question that an officer might now not be who he says he is, don’t be afraid to demand ID. We have a right to be safe on our streets.
Finally, ALWAYS film the encounter. I cannot stress this enough. If you stand your ground, stand principled and film everything, you will be much safer than cowering before lawless authority. It’s our job to police the government. We the people have all the authority and we must hold them accountable. I wrote an article here with some tips on filming police.
Small issues lead to big ones. This is not simply about unmarked cars. It’s about accountability and a government that respects and obeys the people, their rights and the law. We are losing our country America, but if we all stand up we can take it back. Liberty is not the fringe. It’s the foundation.
While I clearly support holding the police to the same standards as everyone else, yet, when I say that I don’t mean with the same laws, courts and punishment systems they have in place for everyone else. While I sympathize with those who have lost loved ones, or have faced, to such heinous acts as rape and murder, I do not feel a law forcing cops to have stickers on their car solves that problem.
In fact, if you don’t want people to impersonate police then getting rid of police all together seems more logical than the sticker idea. Or asking, “are speeding tickets worth it if people are harming others by acting like people who give such tickets?” Both of those options would seem more logical to me than adding some police stickers. I know Gavin and I won’t agree fully on this matter. And that’s fine. We’re perfect examples of people who believe differently but could still co-exist in this world. While Gavin would like to see law restored to it’s liberty roots, I believe that isn’t possible. The roots are just as damaged as the rest of the tree and even if all of us paid more attention, worked to place ‘good’ people into public office and succeeded, it would only be a temporary fix.
As Lysander Spooner said notes in his essay, “The Constitution of No Authority“, the constitution was either unable to stop the growth of government or it was the incubator that allowed it to happen. Either way, it’s unfit to be a document that can restrict, with any amount of success, government from overstepping the boundaries it allegedly outlined from the start. Therefore, the constitution is nothing more than a failed experiment.
What I’d rather see is an evolution of the mind, where people rely less on big government, big haired politicians with comb overs and more on themselves. There may have been a time where a central government, central police force and so on where needed but those times are gone. We have the ability to take upon ourselves most of the functions that have been snatched up by government. We can build roads, we can trade with other people and we most certainly can protect ourselves.
That being said, I applaud Gavin for his tireless work fighting for what he believes in – humanity. Are you willing to fight too?